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Dr Stephen Greer is one of the world's

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authorities on the subject of UFOs and

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extraterrestrial intelligence he's also

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written five books and produced four

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feature-length documentaries each listed

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in the description with the link he's

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currently working on a documentary about

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new energy titled the Lost century and

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how to regain it to be released in

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Spring 2023. I'm joined today generously

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by Dan zetterstrom of that UFO podcast

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now the link to that podcast will be in

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the description and I recommend you

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subscribe at around the 20 minutes and

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the 40 minute Mark you'll hear an ad for

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Trade coffee and Hyundai respectively as

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they both sponsor this video thank you

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and enjoy if you can see this type in

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Spirited Away Spirited Away

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sorry are you there yeah that's all

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right so everything okay I I don't know

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I somehow it went over to something

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called safe driving mode

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okay well it must mean that it gets rid

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of the video because they don't want you

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looking at the video while you're

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driving okay we'll be unsafe at the desk

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oh yeah I want to give you some some

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briefings of my name's Kurt and this is

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a theories of everything podcast it's

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like a physics term and and I'm

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interested in the phenomenon so I

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interview people on the phenomena okay

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okay so so welcome Dr Greer I'll give

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you a great introduction in the edited

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version so don't worry go through

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accolades and so on welcome Greer sorry

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it's Dr Greer and there are thousands of

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people watching right now great

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hello everyone nice to meet you I'm here

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in Washington

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okay

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so

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we'll start off slow and then we'll get

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into the meat of it and and just so you

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know just let me take this out but just

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so you know I I if I feel as if the

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question is going on the answer is going

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on for a bit too long I mean no

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disrespect I may just interject and say

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okay so going back to the original

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question and so on because you have so

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much knowledge and experience and and

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you're you're valuable and valuable at

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the same time so does that sound fair is

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that all right sure no that's fine okay

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great great

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okay so this question comes from

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Santiago who wants to know what's your

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workout routine and what type of music

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I like alternative rock

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uh mostly the alternative uh and uh my

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workout routine is about eight hours a

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week I do a lot of uh mountain biking

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and hiking in the gym I focused on

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non-cardio weights so you know I have a

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day that I do chess and that I do back

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they do legs they do arms each day then

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no I I focus on one muscle group a day

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well what I mean is you take a day off

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like do you have a rest day or each day

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you do something yeah yeah I'm usually

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one or two days a week I take a break

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and then the key thing is you know

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nutrition quickly my wife's a good cook

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and I like to eat yeah yeah when it

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comes to alternative rock just to harp

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on that what bands

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oh I I there's a new band I like a lot

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called Spacey Jane

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um I like Awolnation cage the elephants

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um some of the older ones Foo Fighters

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which of course named their band after

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uh UFOs

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yeah see this guitar that's all I play

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is alternative rock but from the 90s

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like Nirvana and our lady piece oh yeah

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that's why I listened to I just stream

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it off at one of the sites and

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um I don't actually curate my own list

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but I have a friend who does for our

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premieres and events he he curates them

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for us this question comes from Andy

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mcgrillin who says that this podcast

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right now what we're doing it's been

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anticipated by thousands of people and

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you rarely do podcasts so why is it that

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you're appearing on this one and you

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feel free to compliment theories of

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everything as much as you like

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well I don't know my people said that it

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had a lot of viewers and we're trying to

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get some critical information out about

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what we're working on coming up in the

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next uh eight or nine months and that

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you guys could probably help get the

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word out and uh inform some of the

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public that perhaps I'm not normally

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reaching so we thought it'd be a good

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idea to communicate with you guys

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all right what is it that you're working

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on in the next few months eight nine

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months well on October 25th of course

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we're doing a big event in Santa Monica

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and it's a webinar you can join uh but

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it's the backbone of a new documentary

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feature film uh we anticipate it'll be

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more significant than unacknowledged

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that has had 760 million people see it

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uh this next one is going to be called

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The Lost century

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so we're crowdfunding it also I mean in

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other words all our all our activities

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are the people funding that we don't

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have a corporate

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um or that type of sponsor because we

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want to be able to tell the truth and

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the whole truth and not have it censored

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by somebody who controls the content so

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the the Lost century film.com is the

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site if you want to help us with that or

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you can join us on October 25th the

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event itself is sold out in person in

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Santa Monica but what we're doing with

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that film is to create

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um

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a movement uh like the disclosure

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movement but focus on the technologies

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that have been sequestered away that

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would get us off oil and gas and coal

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and for that matter fake electric cars

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like Teslas and solar panels and what

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have you that create a huge amount of

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pollution and you're plugging your car

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into the coal-fired power grid right or

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gas-fired power grid say you know 88 not

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renewable uh energy from your

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electricity grid so there are

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Technologies some will call zero point

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or Quantum vacuum flux systems

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that are

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very well established I mean existed but

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haven't vanished uh by corrupt interest

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both corporate and government so what we

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want to do with the Lost Century show

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there's a lost Century 100 Years of

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these technologies that have been

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sequestered and the Earth is in serious

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trouble and we're not going to fix it

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with just drilling more oil or putting

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solar panels around because the solar

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panels don't have enough energy density

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and that both sides are right and wrong

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about some of the policies they're

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they're putting forward but what they're

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really missing is this third element the

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element being that these really Advanced

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Technologies some of which are explained

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how for example the so-called UFOs don't

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have a payload of fuel or nuclear

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reactor you know where is the time to

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the phenomenon

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400 yeah I always wish when I'm up here

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in DC and if I'm having a meeting with

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some people uh critically and you know

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folks who are supposedly manage the

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intelligence Community here in

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Washington you know I'll point to that

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Tic Tac that everyone made such much and

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noise about and I said that's an

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alternative energy and propulsion device

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just think of it that way you know don't

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make this any more esoteric and in that

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case it almost certainly was from the

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Lockheed Skunk Works in other words it

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was not quote unquote an even on board

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discussion of where have our tax dollars

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gone what do we have in classified

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um what part of that can be disclosed so

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that we could move off of oil and gas

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and coal and uh and really create a new

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civilization based on technologies that

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Nikola Tesla the real Tesla uh and

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others began to discover back in the

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late 1800s and early 1900s so we have a

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hundred years where we've lost

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planet environmentally on a downward

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spiral to nearly an extinction level

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event that's coming out quickly and the

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other problem is that half the world's

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population is an unbelievable poverty

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you know in the west we're so

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narcissistic we think oh well we have

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hundreds of years of oil and gas here in

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you know North America or wherever or

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the Middle East uh which is probably

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but the biosphere can't withstand

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hundreds of years more and that doesn't

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count about half the world's population

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doesn't have electricity uh or a way of

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life like we do I mean three billion

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people don't have any way to cook their

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their meals uh they're they're

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scrounging and tearing down old growth

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rainforests or desert plants to cook and

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make charcoal that's three billion The

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that the it's in the core message of the

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disclosure project but this entire

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these technologies have vanished and

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drinktray.com everything interesting

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okay about the technologies that vanish

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just so you know I get people who claim

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at least claim that they were inspired

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by UFOs or they have tapped in just on

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their own to the same

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physics that they're operating by and

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they have some technology and they want

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to show me but I have this policy of I'm

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sorry if you can't come public with it

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like show everyone then don't show it to

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me because I don't want to have any

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information that I can't talk about so

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that's just my own policy I don't like

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to have to sign an NDA or be in

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possession of anything that I can't talk

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about and what they tell me is Kurt as

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soon as I go forward with this I will

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people have died from this the

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government has silenced people and I'm

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worried for my health my safety or I've

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been contacted by the government

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officials who are trying to silence me

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so in other words those are some fears

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that people have now I'm curious do you

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have those fears and how warranted are

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they

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that this has happened I mean I've been

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personally involved in teams that have

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had the result of a wet Works group kill

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its principal people what works is cie

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term for wet from blood being killed and

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you know I've had myself on the watch

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group list more than once which is the

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kill list but I think that what how do

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you know that sorry I don't mean to

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interrupt I just thoughts occur to me so

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how was it disclosed to you that well

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you remember I'm starting in 93 I

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briefed people like the director of the

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CIA and I have a network of people in

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clandestine services and elsewhere who

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uh

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who are friendly to what we're doing

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they want to stick their necks out too

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far because they don't end up like Bill

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Colby the CI director who is helping us

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back in the 90s bring one of these

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Technologies out and they found him

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floating down here south of DC in the in

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the river

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um he was wet work his best friend was a

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colonel who was on our team and

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confirmed that that was a kill but made

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to look like an accident so these guys

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are not without Foundation what they're

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they're huge mistake and this is a big

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part of this film and you're going to

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hear about this if you join our podcast

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on October uh 25th

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there is a strategy to avoid that but

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everyone keeps making the same mistakes

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and as Einstein said with you know

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definition of insanity is doing the

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thing same thing over and over expecting

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a different result so what we've done is

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analyzed 120 years or so of these sort

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of Technologies how they've come and

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then how they vanished what are the

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mistakes that are consistently made and

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you named it you hit the nail on the

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head they're trying to keep it secret

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now you know what I tell people is that

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if you have something like that contact

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me yesterday

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um immediately and that you have to be

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prepared to open source it now what does

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open source mean it's like GitHub the

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software company it means that you

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release all of it without any holdback

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to the public but massively so what I

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would do is have a massive

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press conference around it but it would

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have been released

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the entire plants how it operates

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nothing held back forget patenting this

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stuff it's going to get seized

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um to a national security order NSO and

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so what you have to do is is say okay

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the the whole system is set up

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to intercept these the big one of the

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biggest ones are financial and legal

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traps uh that are out there because

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people taking quote investors the other

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is that you'll be offered a lot of money

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be black shelved I mean if it's enough

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information and knowledge they'll

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they'll try to buy it off and and put it

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on a shelf where nobody sees it

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that we know specific cases where that's

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happened well that person is Rich the

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inventor and his team but you know the

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world's dying right right so now there

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is another way to do this but it's very

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against what most venture capital and

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financial and legal and business people

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would say and that is you take all the

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details of that invention

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and you release it open source and

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without any holdbacks no patent for the

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good of humanity yes but it would also

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be for the good of the person I'll get

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to this in a minute this is very

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counterintuitive and this is where you

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have to you can have a a 100 million

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dollars in an operational device but if

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you don't strategically understand what

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you're up against you're up against 800

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trillion 900 trillion dollar

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uh cartels of energy utilities oil gas

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coal all of this uh the petrodollar

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system you're not going to take that on

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even if someone gives you a billion

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dollars if you don't have the right

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strategy so what I explain to people is

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that what I what I discovered from

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working with a number of these groups

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beginning with Bruce De Palma in 1991

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and subsequently the tuari device and

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many others and the Stan Meyer family

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that had the car running on water those

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were real systems but they all made the

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same mistake they kept the the

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technology Secret in a small group of

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people so I recommend you have to do

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something called detargeting how do you

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detarget yourself or you do what I've

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done you get it out there you put it out

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there and uh that's what I do with the

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disclosure project you don't sit on this

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sort of thing because if nobody knows

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here's a tree that fell in the woods

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that nobody ever heard right so if you

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don't want to be the tree that falls in

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the woods which means another dead body

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or a confiscated technology you push it

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out here's one of the problems if you're

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in a lab at Lawrence Berkeley labs like

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a man I know who discovered one of these

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a physicist

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and nobody knows who you are you don't

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have the means to get a billion two

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billion people aware of it what my group

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has developed or groups of influencers

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and celebrities and others that we would

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be able to get that out to people and

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you know at least a billion to two

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billion people in a couple of weeks in a

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fortnight so what that means is that you

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squeeze the toothpaste out of the tube

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so fast and so hard these fascists can't

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sure how do you get it out to let's say

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a billion people how do you do that what

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is that like a newsletter or a video

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about like this is popular this is a few

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thousand but no for example you know

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there there are people who are very very

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supportive of what what I'm working on

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like uh Demi Lovato and Ariana Grande

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and other celebrities and I you know we

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say hey drop this link to your 150

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million followers and the link will go

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straight to the plan so that everybody

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could build one of these who's skilled

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in the heart of electrical engineering

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so you have to get it out why is that

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because the group that wants to the

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these sort of Nefarious covert groups

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who've been keeping these technology

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secret they're counting on them

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remaining obscure and your obscurity is

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your Achilles heel if you don't have a

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billion or two billion people who know

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about it and you're not going to get

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cooperation from the mainstream media

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because the mainstream media is corrupt

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and we'll ban it it will absolutely ban

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the story on it now of course you know

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we say well the mainstream media are

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ostensibly pro-environmental not on this

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I'll tell you a very funny story a

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briefing 120 world leaders and on an

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island and you're the Great Barrier Reef

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uh back about nine years ago and the

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most hostile person when I discussed

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this I was on a panel with the head of

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British Petroleum and a whole bunch of

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other people the Minister of Defense of

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Australia was there and a bunch of other

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world leaders but the most hostile

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person out of that 120 person crowd was

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the head of Greenpeace

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because it would be it sounds like a

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dangerous message remember I'm just a

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naive foolish person so I don't know so

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if this is not dangerous but it sounds

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like this is extremely dangerous so how

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is it that you've protected yourself

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other than making yourself known to many

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people and is that the same strategy Bob

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Lazar tried to use

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well yes but remember he was a young man

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who was only there a few weeks and saw

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very little

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um information about this

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I have over 1100 well over a thousand

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people like him but who have been

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involved in much more critical

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information so what what I've had to do

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is not is have support from inside the

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system

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and So speaking very bluntly back in the

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90s when a number of us were targeted

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with an electromagnetic weapon where we

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were all dropping dead of various

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cancers I mean as you know I had

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metastatic malignant melanoma

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Congressman we were working with who was

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digging in the Roswell

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had a strange cancer that killed him in

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six months and my right hand assistant

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was killed and Bill Colby was killed and

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I'd had a man come to me every year and

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say hey do you want protection

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and I'm you know I'm a civilian never

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been the government I'm a medical trauma

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doctor emergency doctor I said no no but

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when this happened I said make it so so

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there's a group that protects us

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um that have significant countermeasures

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in in their capabilities that keep it at

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a sort of a you should be called a

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Mexican standoff you know we're

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basically you know we're not being

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bothered and that's true of anyone who

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comes into our group because it extends

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the people working with me

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um and it's work it's held for 20 that

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was put in place in 98 so it's held for

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24 years

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is this a is this a private group or is

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it easy with the US government no they

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said well

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okay you have to understand first of all

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we have to Define terms there's two

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governments there's the U.S government

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of the Constitution and the people and

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then there's a secret government as

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Senator inui said uh in that famous talk

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when he said there is a secret

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government with its own Air Force its

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own Navy it's some funding mechanism

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that's above the wall and free from the

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law so

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so this gets into some shadowy stuff

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right so but there are people on both

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ends of those governmental spectrum that

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are very very supportive so like right

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now I'm in Washington because I'm taking

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meetings with people who are military

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officials assigned to the White House

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and the People Who oversee the black

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budget of the United States and the

547
00:20:55,190 --> 00:20:53,340
Congress that I'm providing the

548
00:20:57,470 --> 00:20:55,200
information to the actionable

549
00:20:58,909 --> 00:20:57,480
intelligence so that they can penetrate

550
00:21:01,070 --> 00:20:58,919
these programs

551
00:21:03,950 --> 00:21:01,080
that's very dangerous I mean it's

552
00:21:05,750 --> 00:21:03,960
extremely but that's happening right now

553
00:21:07,430 --> 00:21:05,760
I mean that's what's what we're working

554
00:21:09,350 --> 00:21:07,440
on right now

555
00:21:12,049 --> 00:21:09,360
um because the Congress passed a law now

556
00:21:13,970 --> 00:21:12,059
those guys when they get when I get them

557
00:21:16,070 --> 00:21:13,980
read in I suppose it's called or briefed

558
00:21:18,409 --> 00:21:16,080
on all this and I onboard them

559
00:21:20,029 --> 00:21:18,419
with all the information we have because

560
00:21:21,770 --> 00:21:20,039
I'll give them information like here's

561
00:21:24,289 --> 00:21:21,780
the project code names here's where

562
00:21:25,850 --> 00:21:24,299
they're located here's the gate here's

563
00:21:27,830 --> 00:21:25,860
the section of this base where there's

564
00:21:29,210 --> 00:21:27,840
an underground facility where an

565
00:21:31,250 --> 00:21:29,220
extraterrestrial vehicle is being

566
00:21:33,169 --> 00:21:31,260
studied Etc and so on

567
00:21:35,090 --> 00:21:33,179
and because of that because they have

568
00:21:38,330 --> 00:21:35,100
the ability to kick doors in

569
00:21:40,010 --> 00:21:38,340
uh they they've hit they've hit Pay Dirt

570
00:21:41,630 --> 00:21:40,020
in the last six months it's a big

571
00:21:44,450 --> 00:21:41,640
announcement actually but it's not being

572
00:21:47,890 --> 00:21:44,460
reported yet meet mainstream media and

573
00:21:50,450 --> 00:21:47,900
hopefully my name stays out of it um but

574
00:21:51,950 --> 00:21:50,460
nevertheless or groups of people who are

575
00:21:55,070 --> 00:21:51,960
very supportive of what we're trying to

576
00:21:56,810 --> 00:21:55,080
do and is taken very seriously and one

577
00:21:58,730 --> 00:21:56,820
part of that group are people who can

578
00:22:01,430 --> 00:21:58,740
protect and they do protect

579
00:22:03,909 --> 00:22:01,440
so and then there's some other ways I

580
00:22:06,649 --> 00:22:03,919
think things that are not quite seen

581
00:22:08,690 --> 00:22:06,659
that are protected but anyway we we're

582
00:22:10,250 --> 00:22:08,700
we're you know I never would I would

583
00:22:12,110 --> 00:22:10,260
never be so arrogant to say that you

584
00:22:13,549 --> 00:22:12,120
know I'm sort of an Untouchable person I

585
00:22:15,470 --> 00:22:13,559
think it's what we're doing is dangerous

586
00:22:16,250 --> 00:22:15,480
but I accepted the dangers of this back

587
00:22:18,890 --> 00:22:16,260
in

588
00:22:22,250 --> 00:22:18,900
92 and 93

589
00:22:24,710 --> 00:22:22,260
you know it was in May of 1992 30 years

590
00:22:27,110 --> 00:22:24,720
ago that the head of Army intelligence

591
00:22:30,350 --> 00:22:27,120
General uh stubblebine

592
00:22:32,510 --> 00:22:30,360
uh Bert Albert stubblemine the third is

593
00:22:35,029 --> 00:22:32,520
what he went by offered me two billion

594
00:22:37,010 --> 00:22:35,039
dollars to not talk about this or pursue

595
00:22:38,930 --> 00:22:37,020
this

596
00:22:40,789 --> 00:22:38,940
um I told him you know I'm not for sale

597
00:22:42,350 --> 00:22:40,799
and then he went to my wife tried to

598
00:22:44,330 --> 00:22:42,360
convince my wife and that was a big

599
00:22:45,590 --> 00:22:44,340
mistake on his part because no one does

600
00:22:50,450 --> 00:22:45,600
that

601
00:22:52,010 --> 00:22:50,460
the corrupt the capability to corrupt

602
00:22:54,289 --> 00:22:52,020
people here

603
00:22:56,029 --> 00:22:54,299
um is very high who offered that to you

604
00:22:58,490 --> 00:22:56,039
the 2 billion

605
00:23:00,649 --> 00:22:58,500
the head open uh the general stubble

606
00:23:03,289 --> 00:23:00,659
mind he had been head Army intelligence

607
00:23:05,149 --> 00:23:03,299
and special forces and he was a member

608
00:23:08,210 --> 00:23:05,159
of this Elite group and the intelligence

609
00:23:10,310 --> 00:23:08,220
group some call it magic I have a a

610
00:23:13,190 --> 00:23:10,320
national reconnaissance Office document

611
00:23:15,470 --> 00:23:13,200
that has magic on it m a j i c it stands

612
00:23:17,210 --> 00:23:15,480
for the majority intelligence committee

613
00:23:19,210 --> 00:23:17,220
that deals with the UFO and

614
00:23:22,730 --> 00:23:19,220
extraterrestrial issue and it's related

615
00:23:24,350 --> 00:23:22,740
subjects including macroeconomic issues

616
00:23:26,390 --> 00:23:24,360
and these Technologies now remember

617
00:23:29,090 --> 00:23:26,400
these technologies that we're going to

618
00:23:31,190 --> 00:23:29,100
be exposing in the Lost century and by

619
00:23:33,230 --> 00:23:31,200
the way there are four of them we would

620
00:23:35,570 --> 00:23:33,240
like to feature more that we've that are

621
00:23:36,529 --> 00:23:35,580
operational right now as you and I are

622
00:23:39,169 --> 00:23:36,539
speaking

623
00:23:42,289 --> 00:23:39,179
but they are tied up in a strategic plan

624
00:23:44,630 --> 00:23:42,299
by the inventor and their investors

625
00:23:45,950 --> 00:23:44,640
that means it'll never see the day of

626
00:23:49,190 --> 00:23:45,960
light they're they're either already

627
00:23:50,990 --> 00:23:49,200
dead men walking or they are so encumber

628
00:23:53,510 --> 00:23:51,000
legally and financially that the public

629
00:23:56,450 --> 00:23:53,520
will never get the benefit of them the

630
00:23:58,549 --> 00:23:56,460
only reason I'm going to expose them uh

631
00:24:01,490 --> 00:23:58,559
in this documentary

632
00:24:06,770 --> 00:24:01,500
that we're working on uh so stay tuned

633
00:24:08,390 --> 00:24:06,780
uh please help us do this uh we're is

634
00:24:09,890 --> 00:24:08,400
that I think the public needs to know

635
00:24:11,029 --> 00:24:09,900
that over the last hundred years there

636
00:24:12,950 --> 00:24:11,039
have been thousands of these

637
00:24:14,510 --> 00:24:12,960
breakthroughs and people say how can

638
00:24:16,190 --> 00:24:14,520
that be I suppose the walls of the

639
00:24:19,610 --> 00:24:16,200
universe are Universal if you're a

640
00:24:21,049 --> 00:24:19,620
physicist or a scientist like we are you

641
00:24:23,090 --> 00:24:21,059
know that the laws of the universe are

642
00:24:25,549 --> 00:24:23,100
Universal so what does that mean it

643
00:24:27,710 --> 00:24:25,559
means that whatever can be discovered on

644
00:24:29,690 --> 00:24:27,720
another star systems you know from

645
00:24:31,430 --> 00:24:29,700
another star system can be discovered by

646
00:24:33,470 --> 00:24:31,440
people on this planet

647
00:24:36,169 --> 00:24:33,480
and even you know a lot of people look

648
00:24:39,230 --> 00:24:36,179
at this sort of anti-gravity which is a

649
00:24:40,610 --> 00:24:39,240
bad term but gravity control is the

650
00:24:43,130 --> 00:24:40,620
proper term

651
00:24:47,049 --> 00:24:43,140
um that is tied into the whole Zero

652
00:24:49,669 --> 00:24:47,059
Point Energy uh aspect that began to be

653
00:24:53,690 --> 00:24:49,679
experimentally observed by t-towns and

654
00:24:55,810 --> 00:24:53,700
brown uh and others back in the 1920s

655
00:24:59,090 --> 00:24:55,820
were very very high frequency

656
00:25:01,149 --> 00:24:59,100
electromagnetic signals at voltages in

657
00:25:04,730 --> 00:25:01,159
the millions of volts but at low power

658
00:25:07,430 --> 00:25:04,740
would cause objects to look like they're

659
00:25:09,289 --> 00:25:07,440
levitating and that was done in the 20s

660
00:25:11,750 --> 00:25:09,299
so these are well documented

661
00:25:15,289 --> 00:25:11,760
uh what most people don't know is that

662
00:25:17,570 --> 00:25:15,299
October 1954 is when these clandestine

663
00:25:20,149 --> 00:25:17,580
projects within the U.S government

664
00:25:22,130 --> 00:25:20,159
mastered gravity control quote unquote

665
00:25:26,090 --> 00:25:22,140
I'm quoting from like

666
00:25:28,730 --> 00:25:26,100
uh redacted uh top secret document but

667
00:25:30,950 --> 00:25:28,740
my people here in Washington one of whom

668
00:25:33,590 --> 00:25:30,960
was the chief scientist at the Naval

669
00:25:34,970 --> 00:25:33,600
Research Labs who is of course the one

670
00:25:37,510 --> 00:25:34,980
that it's the biggest Department of

671
00:25:40,490 --> 00:25:37,520
Defense lab and Thomas Edison started it

672
00:25:42,350 --> 00:25:40,500
he uh Richard fosh who's now passed away

673
00:25:45,289 --> 00:25:42,360
he went into the Vault where a lot of

674
00:25:47,930 --> 00:25:45,299
these documents are kept and saw the

675
00:25:50,870 --> 00:25:47,940
document that stated Point Blank that we

676
00:25:52,610 --> 00:25:50,880
mastered gravity control in 1954. this

677
00:25:53,630 --> 00:25:52,620
brings up a big problem in the UFO

678
00:25:56,330 --> 00:25:53,640
community

679
00:25:58,789 --> 00:25:56,340
and also with the Congressional hearings

680
00:26:00,830 --> 00:25:58,799
that are happening here people look at

681
00:26:02,810 --> 00:26:00,840
those objects and they think that if

682
00:26:05,870 --> 00:26:02,820
it's not a jet fighter or a rocket

683
00:26:08,570 --> 00:26:05,880
because those are all like 30s 40s era

684
00:26:10,909 --> 00:26:08,580
Technologies it has to be quote-unquote

685
00:26:12,950 --> 00:26:10,919
extraterrestrial or alien I'm going

686
00:26:15,649 --> 00:26:12,960
that's nonsense most of what these

687
00:26:17,510 --> 00:26:15,659
objects are that people see are from my

688
00:26:19,190 --> 00:26:17,520
my uncle worked for Northrop Grumman his

689
00:26:20,870 --> 00:26:19,200
whole career and I worked on the lunar

690
00:26:23,930 --> 00:26:20,880
module landed on the moon with no

691
00:26:26,810 --> 00:26:23,940
Armstrong in it or and so Northrop

692
00:26:29,810 --> 00:26:26,820
Grumman and Lockheed Martin and Booz

693
00:26:31,310 --> 00:26:29,820
Allen Hamilton and EG and G and we know

694
00:26:33,710 --> 00:26:31,320
who the contractors are and where

695
00:26:35,870 --> 00:26:33,720
there's facilities are many of these

696
00:26:39,470 --> 00:26:35,880
objects that people see of various

697
00:26:42,649 --> 00:26:39,480
shapes are man-made now that's a bigger

698
00:26:44,510 --> 00:26:42,659
secret than the ET story why because if

699
00:26:46,310 --> 00:26:44,520
it were to get out

700
00:26:48,649 --> 00:26:46,320
now we've had those sort of Technology

701
00:26:51,649 --> 00:26:48,659
since 1954.

702
00:26:53,390 --> 00:26:51,659
68 years and he didn't need to have

703
00:26:56,710 --> 00:26:53,400
Rockets blowing up and killing space

704
00:26:59,649 --> 00:26:56,720
shuttle astronauts uh and the Apollo

705
00:27:03,769 --> 00:26:59,659
accidents that killed Apollo Astronauts

706
00:27:05,810 --> 00:27:03,779
and jet fuel that when a plane crashes

707
00:27:08,390 --> 00:27:05,820
goes into a ball of Fire

708
00:27:11,990 --> 00:27:08,400
and the damage to the environment and

709
00:27:14,750 --> 00:27:12,000
half the world in poverty since the 50s

710
00:27:16,730 --> 00:27:14,760
this would be a thousand times more

711
00:27:19,430 --> 00:27:16,740
scandalous than Watergate so they want

712
00:27:21,409 --> 00:27:19,440
the UFO subculture and the media that's

713
00:27:24,230 --> 00:27:21,419
begun to jump on this bandwagon to say

714
00:27:26,149 --> 00:27:24,240
oh this is a uh you know we don't know

715
00:27:28,250 --> 00:27:26,159
what this is well we do know what it is

716
00:27:30,710 --> 00:27:28,260
you know this is one of the big problems

717
00:27:33,890 --> 00:27:30,720
there's this big Gulf between what's

718
00:27:35,630 --> 00:27:33,900
known in covert programs and what say

719
00:27:38,570 --> 00:27:35,640
the the people on the Senate

720
00:27:40,310 --> 00:27:38,580
intelligence committee or armed services

721
00:27:41,870 --> 00:27:40,320
committee or these other oversight

722
00:27:43,669 --> 00:27:41,880
committees in the Congress or for that

723
00:27:46,010 --> 00:27:43,679
matter the president and the National

724
00:27:47,870 --> 00:27:46,020
Security Council everyone thinks that

725
00:27:50,269 --> 00:27:47,880
those folks have an all-access passed

726
00:27:52,669 --> 00:27:50,279
they do not and this is a very hard

727
00:27:55,549 --> 00:27:52,679
lesson I learned in 1993 when I was

728
00:27:57,470 --> 00:27:55,559
asked to fly up here from my hospital in

729
00:27:59,690 --> 00:27:57,480
North Carolina where I was working as an

730
00:28:01,490 --> 00:27:59,700
emergency doctor in briefed the sitting

731
00:28:04,010 --> 00:28:01,500
director of the CIA and a bunch of other

732
00:28:06,350 --> 00:28:04,020
officials eventually is that they did

733
00:28:08,630 --> 00:28:06,360
not have access to those projects which

734
00:28:10,549 --> 00:28:08,640
I found to be frankly not credible I did

735
00:28:12,110 --> 00:28:10,559
not believe it I thought this is the

736
00:28:14,450 --> 00:28:12,120
biggest bunch of horseshit excuse my

737
00:28:16,490 --> 00:28:14,460
language there's no way that you're the

738
00:28:18,230 --> 00:28:16,500
director of the CIA or the president and

739
00:28:20,570 --> 00:28:18,240
you're being blocked access to these

740
00:28:24,230 --> 00:28:20,580
projects that that my uncle and other

741
00:28:26,049 --> 00:28:24,240
people had had knowledge of and that I

742
00:28:28,190 --> 00:28:26,059
had collected a huge

743
00:28:30,649 --> 00:28:28,200
portfolio of evidence

744
00:28:32,210 --> 00:28:30,659
but it is the case and so I think the

745
00:28:33,529 --> 00:28:32,220
public when they talk about the

746
00:28:36,350 --> 00:28:33,539
government keeping the secret they're

747
00:28:37,190 --> 00:28:36,360
making a very big fundamental mistake in

748
00:28:38,870 --> 00:28:37,200
that

749
00:28:40,610 --> 00:28:38,880
primary statement

750
00:28:42,830 --> 00:28:40,620
because they're assuming that the

751
00:28:44,810 --> 00:28:42,840
government will We the People knows

752
00:28:46,310 --> 00:28:44,820
anything about most of this now there

753
00:28:48,769 --> 00:28:46,320
are a few of them that do and they are

754
00:28:53,870 --> 00:28:48,779
corrupt politicians on the payroll of

755
00:28:55,909 --> 00:28:53,880
this cabal of sociopaths and Nazis but

756
00:28:57,769 --> 00:28:55,919
um but basically most of them have no

757
00:29:00,350 --> 00:28:57,779
idea and when I meet with them they're

758
00:29:01,610 --> 00:29:00,360
genuinely astonished that this could be

759
00:29:03,950 --> 00:29:01,620
true and they don't know about it

760
00:29:05,930 --> 00:29:03,960
because it might be a key member of the

761
00:29:07,850 --> 00:29:05,940
Senate intelligence committee or a key

762
00:29:10,730 --> 00:29:07,860
member of some other oversight committee

763
00:29:12,710 --> 00:29:10,740
or like I said you know people in the

764
00:29:14,930 --> 00:29:12,720
Pentagon that I have briefed like the

765
00:29:17,690 --> 00:29:14,940
head of the uh defense intelligence

766
00:29:21,049 --> 00:29:17,700
agency that I briefed him and and this

767
00:29:22,730 --> 00:29:21,059
is a guy by the way General Hughes you

768
00:29:24,529 --> 00:29:22,740
know if you know Military Intelligence

769
00:29:26,510 --> 00:29:24,539
that's the top of the pecking order the

770
00:29:28,850 --> 00:29:26,520
the the the director of the defense

771
00:29:30,529 --> 00:29:28,860
intelligence agency is the top of all

772
00:29:31,370 --> 00:29:30,539
military intelligence in the United

773
00:29:33,529 --> 00:29:31,380
States

774
00:29:35,210 --> 00:29:33,539
and he had been totally blocked and

775
00:29:37,190 --> 00:29:35,220
ridiculed for even asking about the

776
00:29:38,990 --> 00:29:37,200
subject but he knew nothing about it you

777
00:29:41,990 --> 00:29:39,000
just mentioned um

778
00:29:43,130 --> 00:29:42,000
yeah uh Patrick Hughes and we have a

779
00:29:44,750 --> 00:29:43,140
question about him so I thought it would

780
00:29:46,970 --> 00:29:44,760
be a good time to jump in uh it's kind

781
00:29:49,310 --> 00:29:46,980
of an empty when I read it out to you uh

782
00:29:51,409 --> 00:29:49,320
from Joe magia in 1998 uh you and your

783
00:29:53,090 --> 00:29:51,419
former see Sati military advisor

784
00:29:55,190 --> 00:29:53,100
Commander will Miller uh you briefed us

785
00:29:57,169 --> 00:29:55,200
it had the DIA uh Patrick Hughes the

786
00:29:58,850 --> 00:29:57,179
champion you just mentioned who had

787
00:30:01,669 --> 00:29:58,860
asked for the briefing to be expedited

788
00:30:03,950 --> 00:30:01,679
uh you said that uh Patrick hughes's dad

789
00:30:05,450 --> 00:30:03,960
uh committed suicide because nobody in

790
00:30:07,730 --> 00:30:05,460
the government would take this seriously

791
00:30:09,350 --> 00:30:07,740
uh is it possible is Dad learned

792
00:30:11,330 --> 00:30:09,360
something unsettling about the phenomena

793
00:30:12,710 --> 00:30:11,340
that led to his suicide can you expand

794
00:30:15,110 --> 00:30:12,720
on the Hughes family in their

795
00:30:17,029 --> 00:30:15,120
relationship with the phenomena and I

796
00:30:19,549 --> 00:30:17,039
wanted to ask if Hughes was present for

797
00:30:22,250 --> 00:30:19,559
your briefing of Admiral Wilson in April

798
00:30:24,529 --> 00:30:22,260
of 1997 with Miller in the attendance

799
00:30:27,049 --> 00:30:24,539
no those were separate they were set up

800
00:30:29,570 --> 00:30:27,059
separately and Admiral Wilson

801
00:30:32,330 --> 00:30:29,580
um with in both all these cases and I'm

802
00:30:34,370 --> 00:30:32,340
still doing this what I what we do is we

803
00:30:36,710 --> 00:30:34,380
provide like a presidential briefing

804
00:30:41,149 --> 00:30:36,720
document that I've handed off teach

805
00:30:42,649 --> 00:30:41,159
president since uh Clinton uh those are

806
00:30:44,510 --> 00:30:42,659
provided

807
00:30:46,070 --> 00:30:44,520
um to them in advance so there are

808
00:30:48,230 --> 00:30:46,080
documents and information and

809
00:30:51,590 --> 00:30:48,240
assessments and cases

810
00:30:53,450 --> 00:30:51,600
and based on that in the case of Admiral

811
00:30:55,430 --> 00:30:53,460
Wilson this is not well understood and

812
00:30:56,750 --> 00:30:55,440
you know the Eric Davis memo that came

813
00:30:58,730 --> 00:30:56,760
out where everyone was all this big

814
00:31:00,590 --> 00:30:58,740
kerfuffle I don't know why there was a

815
00:31:03,409 --> 00:31:00,600
big profile I disclosed this meeting

816
00:31:04,970 --> 00:31:03,419
what happened at it 20 years prior but

817
00:31:06,590 --> 00:31:04,980
somehow everyone must have thought that

818
00:31:09,110 --> 00:31:06,600
somehow what I was saying could not

819
00:31:12,289 --> 00:31:09,120
possibly be true until this this Dr

820
00:31:14,930 --> 00:31:12,299
Davis released this transcript of his

821
00:31:19,130 --> 00:31:14,940
interview with that Wilson years later

822
00:31:21,649 --> 00:31:19,140
but uh Admiral Wilson was wanting to be

823
00:31:23,269 --> 00:31:21,659
read in on this and he made inquiries

824
00:31:26,389 --> 00:31:23,279
now he did

825
00:31:28,310 --> 00:31:26,399
in fact hit a couple of key points based

826
00:31:32,570 --> 00:31:28,320
on some documentation we had given him

827
00:31:34,850 --> 00:31:32,580
and but the response he got back was uh

828
00:31:39,289 --> 00:31:34,860
you know basically the way he told it

829
00:31:41,269 --> 00:31:39,299
was that the uh one office that he got

830
00:31:43,490 --> 00:31:41,279
hold of and contractor because most of

831
00:31:45,889 --> 00:31:43,500
the really important work is wfo worked

832
00:31:47,870 --> 00:31:45,899
for other contractors like a Lockheed or

833
00:31:49,730 --> 00:31:47,880
some Corporation I mean U.S government

834
00:31:54,169 --> 00:31:49,740
doesn't make anything you know they

835
00:31:55,970 --> 00:31:54,179
contract so he uh was told

836
00:31:57,830 --> 00:31:55,980
you know he said look I'm Admiral Wilson

837
00:31:59,149 --> 00:31:57,840
I'm head of an Intel I'm J2 head of

838
00:32:00,409 --> 00:31:59,159
intelligence attorneys they say yes sir

839
00:32:02,570 --> 00:32:00,419
we know who you are

840
00:32:04,250 --> 00:32:02,580
but he go and they go but oh you don't

841
00:32:06,289 --> 00:32:04,260
have a need to know

842
00:32:07,669 --> 00:32:06,299
he says how can I not have a need to

843
00:32:09,710 --> 00:32:07,679
know if I'm the head of intelligence for

844
00:32:11,149 --> 00:32:09,720
the joint Jesus staff they said sir we

845
00:32:12,350 --> 00:32:11,159
will not discuss this with you and they

846
00:32:14,269 --> 00:32:12,360
cut the line

847
00:32:16,909 --> 00:32:14,279
so he continued to dig into it but

848
00:32:19,730 --> 00:32:16,919
eventually he got threatened uh with the

849
00:32:20,990 --> 00:32:19,740
motion and other threats and by demotion

850
00:32:22,909 --> 00:32:21,000
I mean they were going to take a star

851
00:32:25,430 --> 00:32:22,919
off his lapel and all this so he was

852
00:32:27,529 --> 00:32:25,440
like but when we had the meeting I

853
00:32:29,870 --> 00:32:27,539
brought um there was an astronaut back

854
00:32:32,690 --> 00:32:29,880
in the day Edgar Mitchell it was Apollo

855
00:32:34,430 --> 00:32:32,700
astronaut that I was mentoring and

856
00:32:35,930 --> 00:32:34,440
sharing this information with so I

857
00:32:39,590 --> 00:32:35,940
brought him to the meeting

858
00:32:41,570 --> 00:32:39,600
along with some other folks and the

859
00:32:43,130 --> 00:32:41,580
Admiral was shaken but you know it was

860
00:32:44,810 --> 00:32:43,140
supposed to be a 45 minute stand-up

861
00:32:46,970 --> 00:32:44,820
briefing where I stand up and go through

862
00:32:50,570 --> 00:32:46,980
you know all this and the assessment and

863
00:32:52,190 --> 00:32:50,580
the risk assessment The Matrix of a risk

864
00:32:53,990 --> 00:32:52,200
of this being kept secret and being

865
00:32:56,870 --> 00:32:54,000
mismanaged this way all that kind of

866
00:32:58,970 --> 00:32:56,880
thing and what it ended up going on for

867
00:33:01,310 --> 00:32:58,980
like three hours two or three hours it

868
00:33:04,250 --> 00:33:01,320
only ended because it had to go up to a

869
00:33:07,730 --> 00:33:04,260
New York uh City interview TV interview

870
00:33:10,190 --> 00:33:07,740
but um the Admiral you know it was kind

871
00:33:12,470 --> 00:33:10,200
of poignant and sad at the end of it I

872
00:33:14,269 --> 00:33:12,480
said look we really need your help to

873
00:33:16,190 --> 00:33:14,279
get this under control this is an

874
00:33:18,710 --> 00:33:16,200
existential threat to the world and to

875
00:33:20,330 --> 00:33:18,720
the United States national security the

876
00:33:23,169 --> 00:33:20,340
way this is being managed she says yes

877
00:33:25,789 --> 00:33:23,179
it is he says but the best thing I have

878
00:33:28,130 --> 00:33:25,799
it sounds kind of comical is a B2

879
00:33:30,289 --> 00:33:28,140
stealth bomber that I know about and I

880
00:33:33,529 --> 00:33:30,299
now know there's a group that have

881
00:33:35,690 --> 00:33:33,539
craft man-made they can do circles

882
00:33:38,210 --> 00:33:35,700
around my B2 stealth and he says it's

883
00:33:40,070 --> 00:33:38,220
Point set match I mean an outgun

884
00:33:41,870 --> 00:33:40,080
and he says besides which I couldn't

885
00:33:43,870 --> 00:33:41,880
start an investigation on this without

886
00:33:45,769 --> 00:33:43,880
the authorization of the sect F

887
00:33:47,870 --> 00:33:45,779
Secretary of Defense and the president

888
00:33:50,029 --> 00:33:47,880
he I said well that won't be forthcoming

889
00:33:51,830 --> 00:33:50,039
because both of them have been waived

890
00:33:55,130 --> 00:33:51,840
off and they are not going to push on

891
00:33:56,990 --> 00:33:55,140
this for fear of well as Bill Clinton's

892
00:33:59,990 --> 00:33:57,000
friend told me if we were being ended up

893
00:34:01,789 --> 00:34:00,000
by Jack Kennedy literally so so he says

894
00:34:03,529 --> 00:34:01,799
well then I'm very happy to have this

895
00:34:06,710 --> 00:34:03,539
information but there's nothing I can do

896
00:34:08,270 --> 00:34:06,720
now that you can Replay that little back

897
00:34:11,210 --> 00:34:08,280
and forth that I summarize in two or

898
00:34:13,570 --> 00:34:11,220
three minutes many many times here in

899
00:34:16,310 --> 00:34:13,580
Washington and London in Canada

900
00:34:18,109 --> 00:34:16,320
Australia other places I've been to most

901
00:34:20,290 --> 00:34:18,119
of the five eyes countries except New

902
00:34:24,589 --> 00:34:20,300
Zealand discussing this with officials

903
00:34:26,869 --> 00:34:24,599
but the the problem is you know if they

904
00:34:30,589 --> 00:34:26,879
don't have authorization from their

905
00:34:32,030 --> 00:34:30,599
prime minister or president to do the

906
00:34:33,889 --> 00:34:32,040
extraordinary things you'd have to do to

907
00:34:37,129 --> 00:34:33,899
get this under control they're kind of

908
00:34:39,649 --> 00:34:37,139
stuck now the good news is that Congress

909
00:34:42,649 --> 00:34:39,659
has passed a law mandate that this be

910
00:34:45,050 --> 00:34:42,659
investigated and that's now enshrined in

911
00:34:46,730 --> 00:34:45,060
the law so there's a window open that

912
00:34:50,270 --> 00:34:46,740
we're moving through now in the case of

913
00:34:51,889 --> 00:34:50,280
General Hughes General Hughes was um I

914
00:34:54,109 --> 00:34:51,899
don't I didn't know his family look I

915
00:34:56,329 --> 00:34:54,119
mean My People set this up I get ushered

916
00:34:59,150 --> 00:34:56,339
in you're at the Pentagon

917
00:35:01,550 --> 00:34:59,160
um but it was very poignant because what

918
00:35:02,750 --> 00:35:01,560
he did the very first thing he did he

919
00:35:05,290 --> 00:35:02,760
had you know we're in the conference

920
00:35:08,570 --> 00:35:05,300
room for the for the general

921
00:35:11,990 --> 00:35:08,580
for the defense intelligence agency uh

922
00:35:15,950 --> 00:35:12,000
office and he goes over to a bookshelf

923
00:35:17,750 --> 00:35:15,960
and grabs this little cheesy E.T alien

924
00:35:18,650 --> 00:35:17,760
looking doll like you would get at a

925
00:35:21,609 --> 00:35:18,660
store

926
00:35:26,450 --> 00:35:21,619
uh you know at Walgreens or something

927
00:35:28,250 --> 00:35:26,460
and uh he looked he because this is all

928
00:35:29,690 --> 00:35:28,260
I've gotten for my inquiries through the

929
00:35:31,910 --> 00:35:29,700
chain of command

930
00:35:34,730 --> 00:35:31,920
and I told him I said well I have met

931
00:35:37,550 --> 00:35:34,740
with uh people in associated with the

932
00:35:39,950 --> 00:35:37,560
DIA who know about this those are one of

933
00:35:41,450 --> 00:35:39,960
my disclosure project Witnesses he says

934
00:35:43,550 --> 00:35:41,460
well why won't they tell me I said

935
00:35:45,530 --> 00:35:43,560
because they don't want you to know

936
00:35:47,210 --> 00:35:45,540
I say your rank has nothing to do with

937
00:35:49,130 --> 00:35:47,220
it I said you're in the same camp as

938
00:35:51,650 --> 00:35:49,140
some of the presidents and Senators I've

939
00:35:54,950 --> 00:35:51,660
met with and and others see and this is

940
00:35:56,329 --> 00:35:54,960
the upside down world of a Beyond black

941
00:35:58,430 --> 00:35:56,339
I mean there are people I know who

942
00:36:01,310 --> 00:35:58,440
manage unacknowledged projects and black

943
00:36:05,270 --> 00:36:01,320
projects but this is in its own category

944
00:36:07,490 --> 00:36:05,280
and so you know this guy was really not

945
00:36:11,030 --> 00:36:07,500
happy about it and the reason this issue

946
00:36:13,609 --> 00:36:11,040
came up uh about his dad is that and I

947
00:36:16,069 --> 00:36:13,619
don't know the circumstances of it but

948
00:36:17,810 --> 00:36:16,079
he just his first question to me which

949
00:36:20,390 --> 00:36:17,820
was a little disturbing and unnerving

950
00:36:22,010 --> 00:36:20,400
was Dr Greer we don't under we don't

951
00:36:23,150 --> 00:36:22,020
know why you haven't committed suicide

952
00:36:25,910 --> 00:36:23,160
yet

953
00:36:27,650 --> 00:36:25,920
knowing what you okay so that is how

954
00:36:29,030 --> 00:36:27,660
that whole thing came up and I didn't

955
00:36:30,890 --> 00:36:29,040
dwell on it I just said well I have a

956
00:36:32,930 --> 00:36:30,900
different spiritual View and I sort of

957
00:36:34,069 --> 00:36:32,940
have a way of the Stress Management what

958
00:36:35,329 --> 00:36:34,079
do you mean by that what do you mean by

959
00:36:39,710 --> 00:36:35,339
that

960
00:36:41,990 --> 00:36:39,720
this and doing this most people when

961
00:36:44,329 --> 00:36:42,000
they see what you're up against many

962
00:36:47,530 --> 00:36:44,339
people have committed suicide

963
00:36:51,829 --> 00:36:47,540
it's you know I call it disclosure PTSD

964
00:36:52,490 --> 00:36:51,839
it's a special kind of uh stressor you

965
00:36:55,970 --> 00:36:52,500
know

966
00:36:57,849 --> 00:36:55,980
anyone listening imagine being a

967
00:37:00,349 --> 00:36:57,859
30-some-year-old doctor

968
00:37:03,230 --> 00:37:00,359
being flown up the brief the sitting

969
00:37:04,550 --> 00:37:03,240
director of the CIA and he's shaken to

970
00:37:07,250 --> 00:37:04,560
his core because he and the president

971
00:37:09,230 --> 00:37:07,260
can't find out information

972
00:37:11,450 --> 00:37:09,240
um on an issue that is of critical

973
00:37:13,670 --> 00:37:11,460
National Security importance that's when

974
00:37:14,510 --> 00:37:13,680
you realize the entire system is upside

975
00:37:17,030 --> 00:37:14,520
down

976
00:37:18,650 --> 00:37:17,040
that also has been corrupted you know

977
00:37:20,349 --> 00:37:18,660
the best way to characterize the

978
00:37:22,609 --> 00:37:20,359
organization keeping all this secret

979
00:37:24,170 --> 00:37:22,619
including the technologies that we need

980
00:37:25,990 --> 00:37:24,180
to bring out very quickly the at least

981
00:37:28,310 --> 00:37:26,000
the energy ones if not the ones that fly

982
00:37:29,750 --> 00:37:28,320
the ones that fly need to come out later

983
00:37:31,910 --> 00:37:29,760
because they could be missile Delivery

984
00:37:33,589 --> 00:37:31,920
Systems but the ones that can sit in

985
00:37:36,829 --> 00:37:33,599
your house like your heat pump and run

986
00:37:39,589 --> 00:37:36,839
your house with no uh no power bill and

987
00:37:41,810 --> 00:37:39,599
no pollution or could it be in a a test

988
00:37:44,030 --> 00:37:41,820
the car get rid of the 900 pounds of

989
00:37:45,650 --> 00:37:44,040
lithium ion batteries that catch fire

990
00:37:48,530 --> 00:37:45,660
and are very polluting when you mine

991
00:37:50,810 --> 00:37:48,540
them and create them and you would have

992
00:37:53,810 --> 00:37:50,820
an electromagnetic motor 300 horsepower

993
00:37:58,130 --> 00:37:53,820
motor like Floyd Suite had and he had a

994
00:38:02,569 --> 00:37:58,140
little cigarette path size Quantum uh

995
00:38:05,030 --> 00:38:02,579
flux uh device that would run that 300

996
00:38:07,010 --> 00:38:05,040
horsepower engine but of course when he

997
00:38:09,050 --> 00:38:07,020
started to move that out he got killed

998
00:38:10,430 --> 00:38:09,060
he was assassinated

999
00:38:11,750 --> 00:38:10,440
um and he's going to be we're going to

1000
00:38:14,030 --> 00:38:11,760
feature that one of the people who

1001
00:38:16,550 --> 00:38:14,040
worked with him we've interviewed he's

1002
00:38:18,650 --> 00:38:16,560
still living and uh he's up there in

1003
00:38:20,990 --> 00:38:18,660
some years and you're gonna you're gonna

1004
00:38:24,470 --> 00:38:21,000
hear about this but but that sort of

1005
00:38:26,210 --> 00:38:24,480
thing is very stressful and I think the

1006
00:38:28,490 --> 00:38:26,220
the people who I've met with in

1007
00:38:31,310 --> 00:38:28,500
Washington who got pretty close to this

1008
00:38:32,930 --> 00:38:31,320
they usually back off the edge of the

1009
00:38:34,670 --> 00:38:32,940
cliff when they realize that we took in

1010
00:38:36,170 --> 00:38:34,680
Senator gillibrand and people like Marco

1011
00:38:39,710 --> 00:38:36,180
Rubio the people that are really pushing

1012
00:38:41,270 --> 00:38:39,720
this uh like Matt Gallagher yeah oh yeah

1013
00:38:44,510 --> 00:38:41,280
but they're yes and there are there's a

1014
00:38:47,810 --> 00:38:44,520
a growing number the problem is

1015
00:38:50,390 --> 00:38:47,820
um they're not they're not allowed to

1016
00:38:52,310 --> 00:38:50,400
know or read be read in through channels

1017
00:38:53,870 --> 00:38:52,320
uh what's actually going on I mean

1018
00:38:56,390 --> 00:38:53,880
they're still asking questions like you

1019
00:38:59,510 --> 00:38:56,400
know geez are these from China or are

1020
00:39:00,890 --> 00:38:59,520
these what are they you know um so let

1021
00:39:04,010 --> 00:39:00,900
me interject if you don't mind is that

1022
00:39:06,109 --> 00:39:04,020
all right yeah no no go ahead yeah so I

1023
00:39:07,370 --> 00:39:06,119
know what people are thinking uh because

1024
00:39:08,690 --> 00:39:07,380
people are constantly thinking so what's

1025
00:39:09,950 --> 00:39:08,700
where's the evidence for so-and-so

1026
00:39:11,630 --> 00:39:09,960
because there's many many claims here

1027
00:39:13,810 --> 00:39:11,640
and obviously you can't give evidence

1028
00:39:15,950 --> 00:39:13,820
for each one because it would just be a

1029
00:39:16,910 --> 00:39:15,960
three-day event I wouldn't mind a

1030
00:39:19,010 --> 00:39:16,920
three-day event that's actually pretty

1031
00:39:22,730 --> 00:39:19,020
cool like a three-day podcast but either

1032
00:39:25,069 --> 00:39:22,740
way so where is the evidence for hmm I

1033
00:39:26,750 --> 00:39:25,079
don't have a specific claim in mind so

1034
00:39:28,310 --> 00:39:26,760
when certain ones come up I may

1035
00:39:29,990 --> 00:39:28,320
interject and be like okay what evidence

1036
00:39:31,970 --> 00:39:30,000
is there for this that's accessible to

1037
00:39:34,370 --> 00:39:31,980
other people because of course we can

1038
00:39:35,930 --> 00:39:34,380
say so-and-so told me and and I'm sure

1039
00:39:37,310 --> 00:39:35,940
you wouldn't accept that as evidence and

1040
00:39:39,950 --> 00:39:37,320
and there is such a thing as

1041
00:39:41,690 --> 00:39:39,960
disinformation it was hidden it's in

1042
00:39:44,750 --> 00:39:41,700
plain sight of course nobody reads I

1043
00:39:47,750 --> 00:39:44,760
mean the disclosure book is 500 and some

1044
00:39:50,210 --> 00:39:47,760
pages of whistleblower top secret

1045
00:39:52,790 --> 00:39:50,220
transcripts and and government documents

1046
00:39:55,250 --> 00:39:52,800
but and it's there anyone who wants to

1047
00:39:57,589 --> 00:39:55,260
get it can get it just go get it would

1048
00:39:59,270 --> 00:39:57,599
people be able to find your you you

1049
00:40:01,130 --> 00:39:59,280
mentioned that you do have a kind of a

1050
00:40:03,470 --> 00:40:01,140
presidential brief impact are people

1051
00:40:05,870 --> 00:40:03,480
able to view that for example

1052
00:40:07,970 --> 00:40:05,880
not everything in there it's something

1053
00:40:10,310 --> 00:40:07,980
that I would want to put out because it

1054
00:40:12,170 --> 00:40:10,320
has names and people here's what here's

1055
00:40:15,530 --> 00:40:12,180
something that you have to understand

1056
00:40:17,270 --> 00:40:15,540
out of the 1100 or so guys who come to

1057
00:40:20,510 --> 00:40:17,280
me and some women who worked in these

1058
00:40:22,190 --> 00:40:20,520
areas only less than 10 percent of them

1059
00:40:24,109 --> 00:40:22,200
have been willing to be exposed publicly

1060
00:40:26,210 --> 00:40:24,119
in other words

1061
00:40:28,670 --> 00:40:26,220
um there's a man I'm working with right

1062
00:40:32,150 --> 00:40:28,680
now who is at the Nellis range on a

1063
00:40:35,230 --> 00:40:32,160
retrieval team to retrieve both man-made

1064
00:40:38,810 --> 00:40:35,240
UFOs became disabled and uh

1065
00:40:40,310 --> 00:40:38,820
extraterrestrial ones and but he has had

1066
00:40:42,530 --> 00:40:40,320
so many threats he does not want to be

1067
00:40:45,609 --> 00:40:42,540
known in the public but I will give his

1068
00:40:48,770 --> 00:40:45,619
information to these key Black Project

1069
00:40:50,690 --> 00:40:48,780
investigators here in Washington but and

1070
00:40:52,550 --> 00:40:50,700
he he's happy with that so you could

1071
00:40:54,890 --> 00:40:52,560
release a document but redact those

1072
00:40:58,030 --> 00:40:54,900
names yeah so if you look at the last

1073
00:41:00,710 --> 00:40:58,040
like in April I did a three-day

1074
00:41:02,390 --> 00:41:00,720
workshop and we had a whole hour hour

1075
00:41:04,970 --> 00:41:02,400
and a half where I presented his

1076
00:41:06,470 --> 00:41:04,980
evidence in his case but and the details

1077
00:41:08,510 --> 00:41:06,480
there was nothing withheld except the

1078
00:41:11,089 --> 00:41:08,520
man's name

1079
00:41:13,250 --> 00:41:11,099
um now that's because one of the things

1080
00:41:15,170 --> 00:41:13,260
if you want people to come to you with

1081
00:41:16,609 --> 00:41:15,180
very sensitive information that for

1082
00:41:18,290 --> 00:41:16,619
which they've been threatened with being

1083
00:41:20,870 --> 00:41:18,300
killed

1084
00:41:22,550 --> 00:41:20,880
um if if they were to be known publicly

1085
00:41:24,650 --> 00:41:22,560
talking about it then you better keep

1086
00:41:26,930 --> 00:41:24,660
their uh their identities confidential

1087
00:41:28,430 --> 00:41:26,940
which I do yeah I mean and any doctor is

1088
00:41:30,349 --> 00:41:28,440
trained to do that people come to

1089
00:41:31,550 --> 00:41:30,359
doctors until

1090
00:41:33,290 --> 00:41:31,560
um I have a friend who's a medical

1091
00:41:35,150 --> 00:41:33,300
doctor up in Dayton Ohio at

1092
00:41:38,150 --> 00:41:35,160
Wright-Patterson Air Force Base and and

1093
00:41:41,390 --> 00:41:38,160
he's had many people who work there on

1094
00:41:44,329 --> 00:41:41,400
the ET materiel and other Technologies

1095
00:41:45,829 --> 00:41:44,339
spin-off Technologies but you know he

1096
00:41:47,270 --> 00:41:45,839
would never speak of those people's

1097
00:41:49,490 --> 00:41:47,280
names publicly because it was done

1098
00:41:51,710 --> 00:41:49,500
within the the sanctity of the

1099
00:41:52,849 --> 00:41:51,720
doctor-patient relationship

1100
00:41:54,530 --> 00:41:52,859
um and he would not violate that

1101
00:41:55,730 --> 00:41:54,540
although he will give me that

1102
00:41:58,370 --> 00:41:55,740
information

1103
00:42:00,290 --> 00:41:58,380
only because I'm a fellow physician and

1104
00:42:01,550 --> 00:42:00,300
he knows I'm going to convey it to

1105
00:42:03,230 --> 00:42:01,560
people who can actually do something

1106
00:42:05,150 --> 00:42:03,240
about it

1107
00:42:08,329 --> 00:42:05,160
um and you know who are now authorized

1108
00:42:09,710 --> 00:42:08,339
by law mandated by law by the way to do

1109
00:42:10,849 --> 00:42:09,720
this now you know you have to make a

1110
00:42:13,310 --> 00:42:10,859
distinction between what I'm talking

1111
00:42:15,230 --> 00:42:13,320
about right now and the dog and pony

1112
00:42:17,270 --> 00:42:15,240
show at the Pentagon office and the

1113
00:42:19,010 --> 00:42:17,280
Congressional office and I'll let you

1114
00:42:21,050 --> 00:42:19,020
see in Politico and the New York Times

1115
00:42:23,630 --> 00:42:21,060
that's none of that's relevant to what

1116
00:42:25,250 --> 00:42:23,640
I'm discussing that this is happening

1117
00:42:28,190 --> 00:42:25,260
with with people who actually have the

1118
00:42:30,589 --> 00:42:28,200
ability to do something uh most of these

1119
00:42:34,730 --> 00:42:30,599
things it's like Project Blue Book was

1120
00:42:37,250 --> 00:42:34,740
sort of a PR front store operation to

1121
00:42:39,589 --> 00:42:37,260
satisfy members of Congress and and the

1122
00:42:41,510 --> 00:42:39,599
public the real actions were going on

1123
00:42:43,910 --> 00:42:41,520
elsewhere and this is

1124
00:42:45,650 --> 00:42:43,920
this is unfortunate I mean I had my own

1125
00:42:47,690 --> 00:42:45,660
feeling is that all of it all to be very

1126
00:42:49,310 --> 00:42:47,700
transparent happening very quickly but

1127
00:42:51,230 --> 00:42:49,320
you know the United States government

1128
00:42:52,790 --> 00:42:51,240
doesn't operate that way nor does any

1129
00:42:55,310 --> 00:42:52,800
other government

1130
00:42:56,930 --> 00:42:55,320
um and but I do think that you know

1131
00:42:59,210 --> 00:42:56,940
there's great progress right now being

1132
00:43:00,829 --> 00:42:59,220
made I mean more in the 32 years I've

1133
00:43:03,410 --> 00:43:00,839
been doing this it's the biggest

1134
00:43:05,870 --> 00:43:03,420
breakthroughs that I have seen in 32

1135
00:43:07,250 --> 00:43:05,880
years and so there's a lot of potential

1136
00:43:08,390 --> 00:43:07,260
let's just say there's a lot of

1137
00:43:10,430 --> 00:43:08,400
potential

1138
00:43:13,010 --> 00:43:10,440
have you ever thought about your car

1139
00:43:15,410 --> 00:43:13,020
personality so what's your Vibe classic

1140
00:43:17,450 --> 00:43:15,420
fully gas powered or are you more like

1141
00:43:19,430 --> 00:43:17,460
the many worlds interpretation where you

1142
00:43:21,349 --> 00:43:19,440
want the Best of Both Worlds that is

1143
00:43:23,930 --> 00:43:21,359
driving battery powered while keeping

1144
00:43:25,370 --> 00:43:23,940
gas for Reserve just in case or are you

1145
00:43:27,410 --> 00:43:25,380
more inclined to choose a convenient

1146
00:43:29,390 --> 00:43:27,420
hybrid ride whichever your Vibe there's

1147
00:43:31,010 --> 00:43:29,400
a Tucson Hyundai to match and a

1148
00:43:33,530 --> 00:43:31,020
Powertrain to get you there Hyundai's

1149
00:43:35,750 --> 00:43:33,540
2023 Tucson lineup pairs the tech you

1150
00:43:38,450 --> 00:43:35,760
want with sleek and stylish designs they

1151
00:43:41,630 --> 00:43:38,460
paid attention to all the details the

1152
00:43:43,670 --> 00:43:41,640
seat the dash the available panoramic

1153
00:43:45,650 --> 00:43:43,680
roof you name it Hyundai thought of it

1154
00:43:47,329 --> 00:43:45,660
all while making sure that each trim has

1155
00:43:50,630 --> 00:43:47,339
enough room for grocery runs Festival

1156
00:43:52,490 --> 00:43:50,640
nights and tailgates okay Hyundai when

1157
00:43:54,430 --> 00:43:52,500
it comes to your journey Hyundai is

1158
00:43:56,990 --> 00:43:54,440
there for every mile visit

1159
00:43:59,809 --> 00:43:57,000
hyundaiusa.com to learn more about the

1160
00:44:01,370 --> 00:43:59,819
2023 Hyundai Tucson the 2023 Tucson

1161
00:44:05,450 --> 00:44:01,380
hybrid is only sold in California

1162
00:44:08,030 --> 00:44:05,460
Colorado Connecticut Maine Maryland New

1163
00:44:09,770 --> 00:44:08,040
Jersey New York Oregon Rhode Island and

1164
00:44:11,390 --> 00:44:09,780
Vermont want what I like especially

1165
00:44:14,690 --> 00:44:11,400
about the first part of this when you

1166
00:44:16,490 --> 00:44:14,700
came on about the open sourceness I am

1167
00:44:18,890 --> 00:44:16,500
I'm not an academic but I'm trained as

1168
00:44:20,390 --> 00:44:18,900
an academic so I like open source and

1169
00:44:21,890 --> 00:44:20,400
then the question about the briefing so

1170
00:44:24,710 --> 00:44:21,900
why won't you release it well there's

1171
00:44:26,630 --> 00:44:24,720
names okay that's cool and then you have

1172
00:44:29,030 --> 00:44:26,640
released it to some of the people who

1173
00:44:30,650 --> 00:44:29,040
are at some live event now is there a

1174
00:44:34,010 --> 00:44:30,660
reason that it's exclusive to people at

1175
00:44:36,109 --> 00:44:34,020
a live event because I'm sure then oh no

1176
00:44:37,609 --> 00:44:36,119
it's up on our YouTube channel now

1177
00:44:40,790 --> 00:44:37,619
remember our YouTube channel has like

1178
00:44:43,970 --> 00:44:40,800
500 videos some of which are two to four

1179
00:44:46,970 --> 00:44:43,980
hours long and it's Dr Stephen Greer

1180
00:44:48,950 --> 00:44:46,980
it's whatever it is like in PDF form I

1181
00:44:50,630 --> 00:44:48,960
mean like PowerPoint presentation or

1182
00:44:52,069 --> 00:44:50,640
however it is that you deliver yes well

1183
00:44:54,650 --> 00:44:52,079
that's those are going to be create

1184
00:44:56,990 --> 00:44:54,660
that's what we're creating so this huge

1185
00:44:58,630 --> 00:44:57,000
archive that we're collecting that we're

1186
00:45:01,069 --> 00:44:58,640
putting together for the US government

1187
00:45:03,410 --> 00:45:01,079
White House National Security Council

1188
00:45:05,089 --> 00:45:03,420
Congress that we're going to have a

1189
00:45:08,450 --> 00:45:05,099
version of it when we get it done

1190
00:45:10,790 --> 00:45:08,460
hopefully in the next uh 10 months that

1191
00:45:12,410 --> 00:45:10,800
would be accessible by the public

1192
00:45:14,569 --> 00:45:12,420
but you know again you have to

1193
00:45:17,750 --> 00:45:14,579
understand we're not a Rich Podcast like

1194
00:45:19,970 --> 00:45:17,760
you we're of all volunteers and we don't

1195
00:45:22,190 --> 00:45:19,980
have an office or staff now I am hiring

1196
00:45:24,349 --> 00:45:22,200
away from an aerospace company I'm not a

1197
00:45:25,970 --> 00:45:24,359
Rich Podcast just so you know oh I

1198
00:45:27,530 --> 00:45:25,980
thought same oh well you know when I was

1199
00:45:29,630 --> 00:45:27,540
on Joe Rogan you know those kind of

1200
00:45:31,730 --> 00:45:29,640
people I was never offered two billion

1201
00:45:34,670 --> 00:45:31,740
oh you weren't given 100 million dollars

1202
00:45:36,230 --> 00:45:34,680
by Spotify then you know if you would

1203
00:45:37,490 --> 00:45:36,240
take my interview out of the lineup you

1204
00:45:39,109 --> 00:45:37,500
know that's what Joe Rogan did he took

1205
00:45:40,430 --> 00:45:39,119
he took my interview out of the lineup

1206
00:45:43,069 --> 00:45:40,440
so it could get the 100 million dollars

1207
00:45:44,750 --> 00:45:43,079
from my Spotify oh yeah how do you think

1208
00:45:46,490 --> 00:45:44,760
deals like that are made there's a quid

1209
00:45:48,950 --> 00:45:46,500
pro quo let's take out anything that's

1210
00:45:51,650 --> 00:45:48,960
really inflammatory anyway

1211
00:45:55,609 --> 00:45:51,660
um you say how cynical I haven't got the

1212
00:45:57,530 --> 00:45:55,619
media uh big media so in any rate well

1213
00:45:59,450 --> 00:45:57,540
okay firstly like I recommend you I'm

1214
00:46:01,609 --> 00:45:59,460
happy that you're on and I appreciate

1215
00:46:03,470 --> 00:46:01,619
that you're willing to come in here and

1216
00:46:05,210 --> 00:46:03,480
answer some questions that again like it

1217
00:46:07,069 --> 00:46:05,220
sounds answering but just a fatuous

1218
00:46:09,170 --> 00:46:07,079
person so when I say what's evidence for

1219
00:46:10,730 --> 00:46:09,180
so-and-so I mean no disrespect it's just

1220
00:46:13,370 --> 00:46:10,740
my uh

1221
00:46:15,410 --> 00:46:13,380
it is you want but again we put these

1222
00:46:18,230 --> 00:46:15,420
together in so many formats where

1223
00:46:19,790 --> 00:46:18,240
there's video books but most people you

1224
00:46:21,170 --> 00:46:19,800
know they can only stand reading the

1225
00:46:23,030 --> 00:46:21,180
headlines so people want to drill down

1226
00:46:24,470 --> 00:46:23,040
in It Go drill down on them I have five

1227
00:46:27,050 --> 00:46:24,480
books out

1228
00:46:29,809 --> 00:46:27,060
um there are you know like I said a

1229
00:46:31,430 --> 00:46:29,819
thousand hours or more of of really

1230
00:46:33,230 --> 00:46:31,440
densely packed information and

1231
00:46:34,730 --> 00:46:33,240
presentations with those PowerPoints on

1232
00:46:35,870 --> 00:46:34,740
the YouTube channel great great I

1233
00:46:37,790 --> 00:46:35,880
appreciate that you're not offended by

1234
00:46:39,589 --> 00:46:37,800
it I I appreciate that at all I mean

1235
00:46:42,230 --> 00:46:39,599
because there'll be more questions like

1236
00:46:45,349 --> 00:46:42,240
that coming yeah there'll be anyone like

1237
00:46:47,750 --> 00:46:45,359
that should uh you know I mean but what

1238
00:46:49,430 --> 00:46:47,760
I say is say you know go do it you know

1239
00:46:50,870 --> 00:46:49,440
I can't spoon feed it to you if you're

1240
00:46:52,790 --> 00:46:50,880
not willing to read of course nobody

1241
00:46:54,829 --> 00:46:52,800
it's Politically Incorrect to read or do

1242
00:46:55,910 --> 00:46:54,839
math as you know

1243
00:46:59,870 --> 00:46:55,920
um

1244
00:47:02,750 --> 00:46:59,880
coming up the Lost century and how to

1245
00:47:05,210 --> 00:47:02,760
regain it the you said there's a plan

1246
00:47:07,250 --> 00:47:05,220
for there to be a

1247
00:47:09,170 --> 00:47:07,260
push of something open source with

1248
00:47:10,430 --> 00:47:09,180
regard to energy how's that coming does

1249
00:47:11,750 --> 00:47:10,440
that come along with the website like

1250
00:47:14,270 --> 00:47:11,760
how does that work does that come a week

1251
00:47:16,430 --> 00:47:14,280
before a week after no let me be clear

1252
00:47:18,770 --> 00:47:16,440
we don't have any technology we don't

1253
00:47:20,630 --> 00:47:18,780
have an inventor or a Technology Group

1254
00:47:22,609 --> 00:47:20,640
that's willing to do that because

1255
00:47:24,670 --> 00:47:22,619
they're like you know the movie uh Lord

1256
00:47:27,530 --> 00:47:24,680
of the Rings my precious my precious

1257
00:47:29,630 --> 00:47:27,540
Gollum with his ring

1258
00:47:34,309 --> 00:47:29,640
ironically some of them are to our Royal

1259
00:47:36,470 --> 00:47:34,319
ranks uh those folks do not want to lose

1260
00:47:38,089 --> 00:47:36,480
control of it and ownership of it by

1261
00:47:40,210 --> 00:47:38,099
open sourcing it but they don't

1262
00:47:44,030 --> 00:47:40,220
understand if they would open source it

1263
00:47:45,710 --> 00:47:44,040
and connect to a big group uh strategic

1264
00:47:48,710 --> 00:47:45,720
group like we've created that could get

1265
00:47:51,950 --> 00:47:48,720
the word out to a billion people I mean

1266
00:47:53,809 --> 00:47:51,960
you know my first here's how how sort of

1267
00:47:55,730 --> 00:47:53,819
out of the box I think about stuff like

1268
00:47:58,010 --> 00:47:55,740
this everybody wants to go through a

1269
00:47:59,690 --> 00:47:58,020
normal Venture Capital rounds of funding

1270
00:48:03,290 --> 00:47:59,700
which

1271
00:48:05,809 --> 00:48:03,300
is ridiculous because if you had a

1272
00:48:07,910 --> 00:48:05,819
company that had a market cap of what

1273
00:48:10,430 --> 00:48:07,920
Tesla Motors does of a trillion dollars

1274
00:48:12,710 --> 00:48:10,440
it's not enough it's too little and it's

1275
00:48:15,890 --> 00:48:12,720
too late the only way we're going to fix

1276
00:48:18,050 --> 00:48:15,900
this existential crisis on the planet is

1277
00:48:20,270 --> 00:48:18,060
that these Technologies are released

1278
00:48:23,510 --> 00:48:20,280
open source and there are a thousand

1279
00:48:25,849 --> 00:48:23,520
companies that are developing it now the

1280
00:48:27,290 --> 00:48:25,859
person who developed it originally it's

1281
00:48:28,730 --> 00:48:27,300
like if you invented the first xerox

1282
00:48:31,190 --> 00:48:28,740
machine there's going to be a huge

1283
00:48:34,069 --> 00:48:31,200
inflow of support but the other thing

1284
00:48:35,150 --> 00:48:34,079
the reason that thinking is so not

1285
00:48:38,870 --> 00:48:35,160
correct

1286
00:48:40,910 --> 00:48:38,880
is that there's 1.5 billion cars on the

1287
00:48:43,309 --> 00:48:40,920
road that have to be retrofitted and

1288
00:48:46,309 --> 00:48:43,319
converted they're two and a half billion

1289
00:48:48,589 --> 00:48:46,319
homes well what general electorate

1290
00:48:51,530 --> 00:48:48,599
General Motors Amazon and apple

1291
00:48:53,690 --> 00:48:51,540
altogether could not do that in 20 years

1292
00:48:55,430 --> 00:48:53,700
and it has to be done in 20 years so

1293
00:48:57,829 --> 00:48:55,440
this is like a I call like a global

1294
00:49:00,170 --> 00:48:57,839
Marshall Plan like the plan that we had

1295
00:49:02,390 --> 00:49:00,180
to rescue Europe after World War II

1296
00:49:04,490 --> 00:49:02,400
where we put together you know the

1297
00:49:08,150 --> 00:49:04,500
funding and the strategy to resurrect

1298
00:49:10,730 --> 00:49:08,160
From the Ashes Western Europe well this

1299
00:49:14,329 --> 00:49:10,740
is a global plan that has to happen it

1300
00:49:18,109 --> 00:49:14,339
has to happen within 20 25 years and to

1301
00:49:19,670 --> 00:49:18,119
do it you need a huge amount of

1302
00:49:21,490 --> 00:49:19,680
involvement it can't be something where

1303
00:49:24,650 --> 00:49:21,500
you're sitting on it secretively

1304
00:49:26,930 --> 00:49:24,660
ironically the secretiveness about this

1305
00:49:28,609 --> 00:49:26,940
is what gets people killed number one

1306
00:49:31,309 --> 00:49:28,619
because

1307
00:49:34,130 --> 00:49:31,319
they're targeting themselves so like

1308
00:49:36,370 --> 00:49:34,140
let's say you uh Kurt have one of these

1309
00:49:38,690 --> 00:49:36,380
devices and you have a team of 12

1310
00:49:41,450 --> 00:49:38,700
investors and physicists and

1311
00:49:43,730 --> 00:49:41,460
electromagnetic Engineers it'd be so

1312
00:49:45,470 --> 00:49:43,740
easy to rub you out and you'd vanish and

1313
00:49:47,089 --> 00:49:45,480
who the hell would ever know about

1314
00:49:49,250 --> 00:49:47,099
this is what happened to the team that

1315
00:49:51,890 --> 00:49:49,260
got the Stan Meyer archive you know

1316
00:49:53,750 --> 00:49:51,900
because he Stan Meyer not only had a car

1317
00:49:55,250 --> 00:49:53,760
that was running on water it was

1318
00:49:56,510 --> 00:49:55,260
actually running on zero point we can

1319
00:49:58,670 --> 00:49:56,520
get to that in a moment if you want to

1320
00:50:03,230 --> 00:49:58,680
hear the physics of it

1321
00:50:05,870 --> 00:50:03,240
um and the uh that he also had a device

1322
00:50:07,809 --> 00:50:05,880
that had a national security order on it

1323
00:50:11,870 --> 00:50:07,819
that we knew about had photographs of it

1324
00:50:13,670 --> 00:50:11,880
and it was like a toroid and it was

1325
00:50:15,589 --> 00:50:13,680
putting out enormous amounts of energy

1326
00:50:19,370 --> 00:50:15,599
way more than you had to supply to it

1327
00:50:22,370 --> 00:50:19,380
because it was also accessing this um

1328
00:50:25,550 --> 00:50:22,380
very high voltage electromagnetic charge

1329
00:50:28,849 --> 00:50:25,560
system that Taps into and creates sort

1330
00:50:30,710 --> 00:50:28,859
of a space-time cavitation from the zero

1331
00:50:34,010 --> 00:50:30,720
point and this is what they're doing

1332
00:50:35,630 --> 00:50:34,020
so that ended up being can you talk more

1333
00:50:36,950 --> 00:50:35,640
about the physics too

1334
00:50:38,390 --> 00:50:36,960
you said you could talk about the

1335
00:50:40,490 --> 00:50:38,400
physics

1336
00:50:41,750 --> 00:50:40,500
well yeah but I mean it's if you're if

1337
00:50:43,190 --> 00:50:41,760
you're talking to a general audience

1338
00:50:45,950 --> 00:50:43,200
who's gonna no one's going to care about

1339
00:50:47,569 --> 00:50:45,960
pointing vectors and the what Maxwell

1340
00:50:48,770 --> 00:50:47,579
equations were altered and all that

1341
00:50:51,890 --> 00:50:48,780
stuff

1342
00:50:53,390 --> 00:50:51,900
um but what I'm trying to get to is that

1343
00:50:58,730 --> 00:50:53,400
they

1344
00:51:00,890 --> 00:50:58,740
big funder that outbid us for the Stan

1345
00:51:02,990 --> 00:51:00,900
Meyer Warehouse

1346
00:51:05,510 --> 00:51:03,000
including this toroid

1347
00:51:06,970 --> 00:51:05,520
and that was the real action by the way

1348
00:51:10,069 --> 00:51:06,980
not the car

1349
00:51:12,290 --> 00:51:10,079
well a couple years later you know had

1350
00:51:15,950 --> 00:51:12,300
huge amount of funding it was up in

1351
00:51:18,710 --> 00:51:15,960
Michigan I finally get a call from Lord

1352
00:51:19,910 --> 00:51:18,720
somebody I won't say his name uh in the

1353
00:51:22,190 --> 00:51:19,920
British Isles who had been the Thunder

1354
00:51:23,630 --> 00:51:22,200
and he was in a panic he says look

1355
00:51:26,270 --> 00:51:23,640
they're on the run for their lives

1356
00:51:28,430 --> 00:51:26,280
they've got all this stuff operational

1357
00:51:29,990 --> 00:51:28,440
now remember the day that it slipped

1358
00:51:32,870 --> 00:51:30,000
into that world where they were going to

1359
00:51:35,030 --> 00:51:32,880
try to monetize it secretively I said

1360
00:51:36,530 --> 00:51:35,040
these are all Dead Men Walking I said

1361
00:51:38,930 --> 00:51:36,540
that you know the way they're doing this

1362
00:51:39,890 --> 00:51:38,940
is guaranteed to fail it is guaranteed

1363
00:51:43,670 --> 00:51:39,900
to fail

1364
00:51:45,470 --> 00:51:43,680
but now finally this Lord so-and-so

1365
00:51:48,349 --> 00:51:45,480
calls me up I don't he got my number

1366
00:51:49,790 --> 00:51:48,359
somehow and he's in a panic and I'm here

1367
00:51:51,349 --> 00:51:49,800
in Washington I said let me write a

1368
00:51:54,650 --> 00:51:51,359
strategic overview

1369
00:51:55,849 --> 00:51:54,660
of what needs to happen within 24 to 48

1370
00:51:57,410 --> 00:51:55,859
hours

1371
00:51:59,329 --> 00:51:57,420
because they were saying oh we're going

1372
00:52:01,250 --> 00:51:59,339
to go to an eco-friendly country I said

1373
00:52:03,349 --> 00:52:01,260
you'd have to go to an eco-friendly star

1374
00:52:06,530 --> 00:52:03,359
system there's nowhere on this planet

1375
00:52:08,750 --> 00:52:06,540
where this these the henchmen who want

1376
00:52:11,390 --> 00:52:08,760
to keep this secret won't get you find

1377
00:52:13,309 --> 00:52:11,400
you it's just not going to happen

1378
00:52:15,950 --> 00:52:13,319
um they don't rep they don't recognize

1379
00:52:19,130 --> 00:52:15,960
any geopolitical country boundaries for

1380
00:52:21,710 --> 00:52:19,140
their operations tactically so I said

1381
00:52:23,990 --> 00:52:21,720
look you do this so it was exactly what

1382
00:52:26,569 --> 00:52:24,000
we're talking about you open source it

1383
00:52:29,150 --> 00:52:26,579
immediately you then hand off all that

1384
00:52:31,430 --> 00:52:29,160
information to us and I will get

1385
00:52:34,250 --> 00:52:31,440
you know 20 of the top celebrities

1386
00:52:36,950 --> 00:52:34,260
working on this to announce it to all

1387
00:52:39,890 --> 00:52:36,960
their fans and get all the fan girls and

1388
00:52:42,829 --> 00:52:39,900
Fanboys of people like from Justin

1389
00:52:45,890 --> 00:52:42,839
Bieber to whoever you know Godsmack to

1390
00:52:48,890 --> 00:52:45,900
Justice Beaver yeah they're all really

1391
00:52:50,990 --> 00:52:48,900
into it so um so what what I tell people

1392
00:52:52,430 --> 00:52:51,000
is that why because I said because

1393
00:52:54,109 --> 00:52:52,440
you're going to get blocked at the media

1394
00:52:55,670 --> 00:52:54,119
level which is controlled by corporate

1395
00:52:58,190 --> 00:52:55,680
there are shills for big corporate

1396
00:53:00,770 --> 00:52:58,200
interests you're gonna get blocked by uh

1397
00:53:04,309 --> 00:53:00,780
the tech companies but what they cannot

1398
00:53:06,470 --> 00:53:04,319
block are these big influencers who have

1399
00:53:10,730 --> 00:53:06,480
100 200 million followers on Instagram

1400
00:53:12,650 --> 00:53:10,740
or wherever and those people have one of

1401
00:53:14,390 --> 00:53:12,660
these devices running their house how

1402
00:53:16,910 --> 00:53:14,400
are you going to stop if

1403
00:53:19,069 --> 00:53:16,920
one of these A-list celebrities or 20 or

1404
00:53:20,990 --> 00:53:19,079
30 of them have their cars and their

1405
00:53:22,549 --> 00:53:21,000
house running no it you know people say

1406
00:53:25,910 --> 00:53:22,559
what's a PR style I said no it's not

1407
00:53:27,530 --> 00:53:25,920
it's a way to get around the Embargo of

1408
00:53:29,870 --> 00:53:27,540
this information through the corrupt

1409
00:53:31,609 --> 00:53:29,880
media so I said but look this is what

1410
00:53:33,650 --> 00:53:31,619
this is what you got to do you got to do

1411
00:53:35,870 --> 00:53:33,660
it very quickly now the next thing I

1412
00:53:37,730 --> 00:53:35,880
know they they had decided they were

1413
00:53:39,650 --> 00:53:37,740
going to still keep it secret they

1414
00:53:41,270 --> 00:53:39,660
wanted to be you know like Gollum and

1415
00:53:43,910 --> 00:53:41,280
Gauntlet with the Lord of the Rings and

1416
00:53:45,710 --> 00:53:43,920
hold on to their precious might they

1417
00:53:48,049 --> 00:53:45,720
were to my knowledge all but one of them

1418
00:53:49,190 --> 00:53:48,059
were killed they all vanished okay so

1419
00:53:51,109 --> 00:53:49,200
let's talk about the physics of the

1420
00:53:53,930 --> 00:53:51,119
precious man I was involved in that very

1421
00:53:56,210 --> 00:53:53,940
very specifically it's very sad

1422
00:53:58,309 --> 00:53:56,220
so the physics aspect you mentioned that

1423
00:54:00,290 --> 00:53:58,319
people may not people just so you know

1424
00:54:02,750 --> 00:54:00,300
come to this podcast in particular for

1425
00:54:04,910 --> 00:54:02,760
the technicalities of physics that's

1426
00:54:07,430 --> 00:54:04,920
what we're our main right is physics

1427
00:54:10,430 --> 00:54:07,440
okay so you're welcome more than welcome

1428
00:54:12,530 --> 00:54:10,440
to speak as advanced as you like well

1429
00:54:15,290 --> 00:54:12,540
one one thing to look at is the is the

1430
00:54:18,109 --> 00:54:15,300
resource that has been done

1431
00:54:19,730 --> 00:54:18,119
um by people like Ken shoulders who who

1432
00:54:22,490 --> 00:54:19,740
since have passed away who had his

1433
00:54:24,650 --> 00:54:22,500
charge cluster arrays and basically what

1434
00:54:26,049 --> 00:54:24,660
those were were little tiny ball

1435
00:54:29,569 --> 00:54:26,059
lightning

1436
00:54:32,750 --> 00:54:29,579
and it's now been discovered that these

1437
00:54:36,410 --> 00:54:32,760
little electrostatic ball lightning type

1438
00:54:39,530 --> 00:54:36,420
packets when they discharge they're

1439
00:54:42,710 --> 00:54:39,540
actually perturbing or stimulating this

1440
00:54:46,250 --> 00:54:42,720
this Quantum flux zero point field of

1441
00:54:49,609 --> 00:54:46,260
energy and it causes a cavitation in

1442
00:54:52,490 --> 00:54:49,619
space-time that causes an enormous uh

1443
00:54:54,829 --> 00:54:52,500
force of forward moving force that can

1444
00:54:57,609 --> 00:54:54,839
be put against the pits and or turn a

1445
00:54:59,930 --> 00:54:57,619
rotor for a generator or what have you

1446
00:55:01,309 --> 00:54:59,940
most scientists over the last hundred

1447
00:55:04,730 --> 00:55:01,319
years didn't know how that was happening

1448
00:55:08,510 --> 00:55:04,740
it got imaged uh not too long ago very

1449
00:55:11,030 --> 00:55:08,520
very well by a scientist a physicist in

1450
00:55:12,950 --> 00:55:11,040
Tokyo I believe it's University of Tokyo

1451
00:55:14,510 --> 00:55:12,960
I forget his the gentleman's name where

1452
00:55:15,890 --> 00:55:14,520
they were able to image that this is

1453
00:55:18,770 --> 00:55:15,900
what was going on

1454
00:55:21,589 --> 00:55:18,780
now that's true of whether it was Stan

1455
00:55:23,930 --> 00:55:21,599
Meyer with his electrostatic system to

1456
00:55:25,970 --> 00:55:23,940
create hydrogen and oxygen gas

1457
00:55:27,589 --> 00:55:25,980
the hydrogen and oxygen gas from

1458
00:55:29,809 --> 00:55:27,599
dissociating you have to you know beat

1459
00:55:31,970 --> 00:55:29,819
the Faraday constant you know the amount

1460
00:55:34,730 --> 00:55:31,980
of electrical engine it has to go into

1461
00:55:36,950 --> 00:55:34,740
from an electrolyzer to separate the

1462
00:55:40,849 --> 00:55:36,960
bond of hydrogen and oxygen which is

1463
00:55:43,809 --> 00:55:40,859
what H2O water is in this case the even

1464
00:55:46,670 --> 00:55:43,819
the amount of hydrogen and oxygen gas

1465
00:55:49,190 --> 00:55:46,680
wouldn't explain how far that car would

1466
00:55:50,870 --> 00:55:49,200
run because if you calculate the energy

1467
00:55:53,329 --> 00:55:50,880
of what's in that hydrogen and oxygen

1468
00:55:55,609 --> 00:55:53,339
gas so what it was really doing and this

1469
00:55:58,370 --> 00:55:55,619
is because it was doing it on demand it

1470
00:56:01,190 --> 00:55:58,380
was actually accessing this excess

1471
00:56:04,250 --> 00:56:01,200
energy let's call it from this Baseline

1472
00:56:07,490 --> 00:56:04,260
Quantum flux field or Zero Point Energy

1473
00:56:10,250 --> 00:56:07,500
field through these high voltage uh

1474
00:56:11,750 --> 00:56:10,260
circuits now I don't think Stan Meyer

1475
00:56:13,730 --> 00:56:11,760
understood the physics so because that's

1476
00:56:15,950 --> 00:56:13,740
just now getting increasingly elaborated

1477
00:56:19,010 --> 00:56:15,960
a very good source for this is Maury

1478
00:56:21,470 --> 00:56:19,020
King's book that talks about water uh

1479
00:56:22,730 --> 00:56:21,480
the the source of new energy and the

1480
00:56:25,309 --> 00:56:22,740
zero point

1481
00:56:27,049 --> 00:56:25,319
um it's a bit dense he's an engineer and

1482
00:56:28,549 --> 00:56:27,059
it's a but if you're a physicist I'd

1483
00:56:30,770 --> 00:56:28,559
recommend you take a look at that book

1484
00:56:33,470 --> 00:56:30,780
Maury King we just interviewed him about

1485
00:56:35,690 --> 00:56:33,480
this so there are many ways to do it

1486
00:56:37,670 --> 00:56:35,700
it's basically people have done it with

1487
00:56:40,130 --> 00:56:37,680
different media you can do it through an

1488
00:56:42,470 --> 00:56:40,140
electromagnetic crystalline substance

1489
00:56:45,010 --> 00:56:42,480
you can do it through water you can do

1490
00:56:47,750 --> 00:56:45,020
it this through the circuitry of

1491
00:56:50,510 --> 00:56:47,760
electrically charged steel like the

1492
00:56:52,690 --> 00:56:50,520
Holcomb device down in Florida and you

1493
00:56:56,569 --> 00:56:52,700
can also do it through solid-state

1494
00:56:58,130 --> 00:56:56,579
oscillator resonance where you're having

1495
00:57:01,490 --> 00:56:58,140
the same effect

1496
00:57:03,890 --> 00:57:01,500
uh in in these and the key thing is here

1497
00:57:06,650 --> 00:57:03,900
vhv very high voltage systems at certain

1498
00:57:07,670 --> 00:57:06,660
frequencies and the sort of little what

1499
00:57:09,589 --> 00:57:07,680
you look at when you look at it

1500
00:57:13,370 --> 00:57:09,599
microscopically these tiny ball

1501
00:57:16,490 --> 00:57:13,380
lightning type phenomenon that create

1502
00:57:18,410 --> 00:57:16,500
this sort of cavitation and space time

1503
00:57:19,309 --> 00:57:18,420
how high of a voltage are we talking

1504
00:57:20,690 --> 00:57:19,319
about

1505
00:57:22,609 --> 00:57:20,700
Millions

1506
00:57:25,670 --> 00:57:22,619
I mean it depends on what you're doing I

1507
00:57:28,190 --> 00:57:25,680
mean votes yeah but at very low low Uh

1508
00:57:31,130 --> 00:57:28,200
current so the power is very low so you

1509
00:57:33,530 --> 00:57:31,140
might put 100 watts into a system and

1510
00:57:36,470 --> 00:57:33,540
get you know a kilowatt out or five

1511
00:57:38,349 --> 00:57:36,480
kilowatts out ultimately you know I just

1512
00:57:41,690 --> 00:57:38,359
was at a place out in the desert of

1513
00:57:43,970 --> 00:57:41,700
Arizona where we witnessed this is going

1514
00:57:47,450 --> 00:57:43,980
to be we're going to show this on our

1515
00:57:49,730 --> 00:57:47,460
our pod not podcast our webinar on

1516
00:57:52,609 --> 00:57:49,740
October 25th

1517
00:57:56,150 --> 00:57:52,619
this device that had I think it was four

1518
00:57:57,770 --> 00:57:56,160
magnesium alloy plates and this

1519
00:57:59,930 --> 00:57:57,780
particular device was more like an

1520
00:58:03,290 --> 00:57:59,940
original Tesla sort of a miniaturized

1521
00:58:07,130 --> 00:58:03,300
version of warden cliff where this guy

1522
00:58:08,750 --> 00:58:07,140
for after 40 Years of trying to do this

1523
00:58:10,130 --> 00:58:08,760
something that's a little bit bigger

1524
00:58:12,410 --> 00:58:10,140
than a shoe box

1525
00:58:14,329 --> 00:58:12,420
and at the startup Powers three volt

1526
00:58:17,210 --> 00:58:14,339
battery which you could take out and

1527
00:58:19,549 --> 00:58:17,220
it's actually pulling the magnetic flux

1528
00:58:23,750 --> 00:58:19,559
and the What's called the negative

1529
00:58:26,270 --> 00:58:23,760
energy that's around us uh and it's it

1530
00:58:27,950 --> 00:58:26,280
was when we were there a few weeks ago

1531
00:58:29,990 --> 00:58:27,960
it was had been running for over two

1532
00:58:32,690 --> 00:58:30,000
years this negative energy around us

1533
00:58:34,790 --> 00:58:32,700
well he calls it negative energy I think

1534
00:58:36,410 --> 00:58:34,800
it's what I think a lot of these terms

1535
00:58:38,930 --> 00:58:36,420
are fungible because they're still being

1536
00:58:41,450 --> 00:58:38,940
defined I think what he calls negative

1537
00:58:44,630 --> 00:58:41,460
energy is actually an aspect of the the

1538
00:58:46,430 --> 00:58:44,640
zero point the quantum flux field

1539
00:58:49,190 --> 00:58:46,440
um so with you know without getting too

1540
00:58:50,930 --> 00:58:49,200
much further into those weeds what the

1541
00:58:54,829 --> 00:58:50,940
strange thing about his device it has to

1542
00:58:57,170 --> 00:58:54,839
be tuned to the magnetic field and of of

1543
00:59:01,010 --> 00:58:57,180
the earth exactly where it is because

1544
00:59:02,990 --> 00:59:01,020
it's actually feeding off the flow of

1545
00:59:05,329 --> 00:59:03,000
energy from the Sun to the Earth and the

1546
00:59:07,849 --> 00:59:05,339
magnetosphere it's very interesting very

1547
00:59:10,010 --> 00:59:07,859
it's very tesla-like but instead of it

1548
00:59:12,410 --> 00:59:10,020
being this gigantic thing it's like this

1549
00:59:14,750 --> 00:59:12,420
big I mean you know so we're there and I

1550
00:59:16,730 --> 00:59:14,760
we test it there are no wires going into

1551
00:59:19,010 --> 00:59:16,740
it it's putting out

1552
00:59:21,349 --> 00:59:19,020
um it was putting out we've got it

1553
00:59:25,670 --> 00:59:21,359
around five kilowatts

1554
00:59:27,829 --> 00:59:25,680
and no energy input now uh interestingly

1555
00:59:29,650 --> 00:59:27,839
even when it was started it was a little

1556
00:59:33,410 --> 00:59:29,660
three volt battery tiny little battery

1557
00:59:35,710 --> 00:59:33,420
so this is quite ingenious you could

1558
00:59:38,089 --> 00:59:35,720
certainly uh it's probably not as robust

1559
00:59:39,849 --> 00:59:38,099
it can't be like put in a vehicle in

1560
00:59:42,349 --> 00:59:39,859
mood because it's tuned to this

1561
00:59:43,670 --> 00:59:42,359
frequency of on the earth you know

1562
00:59:46,130 --> 00:59:43,680
anywhere you go on Earth there's a

1563
00:59:49,010 --> 00:59:46,140
magnetic field frequency so his system

1564
00:59:51,470 --> 00:59:49,020
is dependent on that being tuned others

1565
00:59:53,210 --> 00:59:51,480
are not others are not so there are many

1566
00:59:55,430 --> 00:59:53,220
ways to scan this cap but this was a

1567
00:59:59,210 --> 00:59:55,440
very fascinating but again he had made

1568
01:00:01,970 --> 00:59:59,220
every conceivable strategic mistake to

1569
01:00:05,089 --> 01:00:01,980
guarantee it will never benefit Humanity

1570
01:00:06,950 --> 01:00:05,099
and so in a way it was a case in uh

1571
01:00:09,049 --> 01:00:06,960
looking at of course this guy is you

1572
01:00:12,650 --> 01:00:09,059
know quite up there in years now

1573
01:00:14,270 --> 01:00:12,660
um he's also you know a scientist but he

1574
01:00:16,730 --> 01:00:14,280
he really thinks he's going to somehow

1575
01:00:18,950 --> 01:00:16,740
beat the power grid companies by

1576
01:00:20,210 --> 01:00:18,960
creating a megawatt plant and selling it

1577
01:00:24,770 --> 01:00:20,220
to the

1578
01:00:26,569 --> 01:00:24,780
those companies are vertically and

1579
01:00:29,329 --> 01:00:26,579
horizontally integrated into people who

1580
01:00:31,370 --> 01:00:29,339
do not want this solution and the laws

1581
01:00:34,430 --> 01:00:31,380
around and regulations around tapping

1582
01:00:36,650 --> 01:00:34,440
into the Grid or so regulated by state

1583
01:00:38,569 --> 01:00:36,660
federal and local bureaucracies that

1584
01:00:41,089 --> 01:00:38,579
they'll kill this and strangle it in its

1585
01:00:42,710 --> 01:00:41,099
great cradle in two seconds so what I

1586
01:00:45,890 --> 01:00:42,720
find is that you find these ingenious

1587
01:00:49,190 --> 01:00:45,900
devices attached to completely wacky

1588
01:00:51,049 --> 01:00:49,200
strategies because they're they're not

1589
01:00:53,089 --> 01:00:51,059
figuring in their strategy of how to get

1590
01:00:56,510 --> 01:00:53,099
it out what their adversary is capable

1591
01:00:59,329 --> 01:00:56,520
of and then here's your big mistake you

1592
01:01:01,430 --> 01:00:59,339
cannot underestimate your adversary and

1593
01:01:03,289 --> 01:01:01,440
your adversary is you know got more

1594
01:01:06,950 --> 01:01:03,299
power and wealth than the entire US

1595
01:01:08,690 --> 01:01:06,960
government and very exotic Technologies

1596
01:01:11,329 --> 01:01:08,700
to get in your way I mean when I say

1597
01:01:13,609 --> 01:01:11,339
exotic the studying of this sort of

1598
01:01:16,789 --> 01:01:13,619
Science and Technology what the cie guys

1599
01:01:18,950 --> 01:01:16,799
call wsfm this whole area of science is

1600
01:01:21,549 --> 01:01:18,960
Weird Science and freaking magic what's

1601
01:01:24,289 --> 01:01:21,559
it called again repeated once more

1602
01:01:27,770 --> 01:01:24,299
wsfm if you ever hear that term in the

1603
01:01:30,049 --> 01:01:27,780
Carters of some contractor it's a weird

1604
01:01:32,450 --> 01:01:30,059
science and freaking magic

1605
01:01:34,730 --> 01:01:32,460
um at Northrop Grumman they just call it

1606
01:01:37,430 --> 01:01:34,740
pfm pure magic excuse my

1607
01:01:38,750 --> 01:01:37,440
language but uh but but they call it

1608
01:01:41,329 --> 01:01:38,760
magic because you have all this

1609
01:01:44,450 --> 01:01:41,339
phenomenon that happens it's not magic

1610
01:01:46,490 --> 01:01:44,460
it's just like it's it's new science

1611
01:01:48,109 --> 01:01:46,500
um but let me interject if you don't

1612
01:01:48,950 --> 01:01:48,119
mind I'd like to get into the weeds I

1613
01:01:50,990 --> 01:01:48,960
know that you want to get out of the

1614
01:01:52,789 --> 01:01:51,000
ways let's just delve into for a tiny

1615
01:01:54,109 --> 01:01:52,799
bit so how does one produce the voltage

1616
01:01:56,030 --> 01:01:54,119
that's required

1617
01:01:58,789 --> 01:01:56,040
the millions or tens of millions of

1618
01:02:00,950 --> 01:01:58,799
volts like practically well some of them

1619
01:02:02,930 --> 01:02:00,960
don't need that but some of them do like

1620
01:02:05,510 --> 01:02:02,940
at this gentleman he just had a starter

1621
01:02:08,930 --> 01:02:05,520
once he tapped into the frequency

1622
01:02:11,210 --> 01:02:08,940
and the magnetic field right there he

1623
01:02:14,270 --> 01:02:11,220
would have this small three volt battery

1624
01:02:16,250 --> 01:02:14,280
to start the initial resonance in these

1625
01:02:18,589 --> 01:02:16,260
plates there's a group up in Canada that

1626
01:02:20,329 --> 01:02:18,599
has a very similar system so not all of

1627
01:02:24,650 --> 01:02:20,339
them have to have that but your some of

1628
01:02:26,690 --> 01:02:24,660
your classical uh systems for example T

1629
01:02:29,569 --> 01:02:26,700
Townsend Brown and his ability to create

1630
01:02:33,730 --> 01:02:29,579
this lifter of anti-gravity effect or

1631
01:02:38,390 --> 01:02:36,710
you're talking to a classically trained

1632
01:02:40,309 --> 01:02:38,400
person I have issues with the zero point

1633
01:02:41,569 --> 01:02:40,319
so for instance you need a difference it

1634
01:02:42,950 --> 01:02:41,579
doesn't matter if there's energy around

1635
01:02:44,390 --> 01:02:42,960
you and then if there is then why

1636
01:02:45,770 --> 01:02:44,400
doesn't it create a black hole because

1637
01:02:48,349 --> 01:02:45,780
then you would need Quantum field Theory

1638
01:02:50,870 --> 01:02:48,359
and general relativity so there are many

1639
01:02:52,910 --> 01:02:50,880
questions that arise if you don't mind

1640
01:02:54,349 --> 01:02:52,920
just like what is it what is meant by

1641
01:02:55,910 --> 01:02:54,359
what is what is this frequency and

1642
01:02:57,950 --> 01:02:55,920
what's meant by tapping into the

1643
01:03:00,109 --> 01:02:57,960
frequency

1644
01:03:01,970 --> 01:03:00,119
it's what what I'm trying to say in late

1645
01:03:03,890 --> 01:03:01,980
terms so I mean I don't know how far to

1646
01:03:05,470 --> 01:03:03,900
if you have let's say you have a two

1647
01:03:10,010 --> 01:03:05,480
million volt

1648
01:03:12,289 --> 01:03:10,020
uh system but very low current you know

1649
01:03:14,150 --> 01:03:12,299
so yeah maybe it's only you know static

1650
01:03:16,250 --> 01:03:14,160
electricity by the way is millions of

1651
01:03:18,650 --> 01:03:16,260
volts like when it's cold and you you

1652
01:03:20,630 --> 01:03:18,660
zap that's millions of volts but an

1653
01:03:21,950 --> 01:03:20,640
incredibly low power because there's not

1654
01:03:26,390 --> 01:03:21,960
much current

1655
01:03:29,510 --> 01:03:26,400
if you have a sustained uh voltage like

1656
01:03:30,829 --> 01:03:29,520
that at certain frequencies hurt cycles

1657
01:03:32,770 --> 01:03:30,839
per second

1658
01:03:35,030 --> 01:03:32,780
it will create

1659
01:03:38,510 --> 01:03:35,040
basically as some have described it a

1660
01:03:41,329 --> 01:03:38,520
vector a perturbation of the Ambient

1661
01:03:44,089 --> 01:03:41,339
Energy field and cause

1662
01:03:47,390 --> 01:03:44,099
as as Maury King describes that sort of

1663
01:03:49,190 --> 01:03:47,400
this cavitating effect uh from the zero

1664
01:03:51,049 --> 01:03:49,200
point where it actually pulls out some

1665
01:03:54,289 --> 01:03:51,059
little bit of it now remember it's been

1666
01:03:59,089 --> 01:03:54,299
estimated that you know at the level of

1667
01:04:02,990 --> 01:03:59,099
Zero Point Energy uh the the volume of

1668
01:04:04,910 --> 01:04:03,000
of inside a coffee mug that much space

1669
01:04:07,010 --> 01:04:04,920
amount of space has enough potential

1670
01:04:08,750 --> 01:04:07,020
power to boil off all the Waters of the

1671
01:04:11,450 --> 01:04:08,760
planet

1672
01:04:12,829 --> 01:04:11,460
minor liquidity here static electricity

1673
01:04:14,210 --> 01:04:12,839
is on the order of fifteen thousand

1674
01:04:16,130 --> 01:04:14,220
volts and not a million or tens of

1675
01:04:18,710 --> 01:04:16,140
millions I believe Dr Greer simply

1676
01:04:20,329 --> 01:04:18,720
misspoke as we all do and I'm correcting

1677
01:04:21,890 --> 01:04:20,339
here in part so that you don't go trying

1678
01:04:23,630 --> 01:04:21,900
to build a device wondering why the heck

1679
01:04:26,210 --> 01:04:23,640
is not working or ruining your family

1680
01:04:28,309 --> 01:04:26,220
dinners with physics tidbits like I do

1681
01:04:29,690 --> 01:04:28,319
so it's it's you know this is why you

1682
01:04:30,890 --> 01:04:29,700
test to kind of referred to it although

1683
01:04:33,049 --> 01:04:30,900
they didn't understand that's what it

1684
01:04:36,589 --> 01:04:33,059
was this sort of infinite energy field

1685
01:04:39,829 --> 01:04:36,599
but to actually access it you have to do

1686
01:04:42,410 --> 01:04:39,839
these uh various physics and

1687
01:04:44,210 --> 01:04:42,420
electromagnetic engineering uh

1688
01:04:45,650 --> 01:04:44,220
techniques and it's different for

1689
01:04:48,589 --> 01:04:45,660
different substances if it's just

1690
01:04:50,870 --> 01:04:48,599
electric steel which is what Dr Holcomb

1691
01:04:52,730 --> 01:04:50,880
is doing with his Holcomb Energy System

1692
01:04:54,230 --> 01:04:52,740
that's different from what this

1693
01:04:55,789 --> 01:04:54,240
gentleman in the desert was doing with

1694
01:04:58,250 --> 01:04:55,799
the magnetic field of the earth which

1695
01:05:01,250 --> 01:04:58,260
was different from what Stan Meyer was

1696
01:05:03,170 --> 01:05:01,260
doing with water but the principles you

1697
01:05:05,870 --> 01:05:03,180
know the UN this is why you know one of

1698
01:05:08,569 --> 01:05:05,880
the things I've been advocating is some

1699
01:05:10,849 --> 01:05:08,579
Venture capitalists who actually you

1700
01:05:12,770 --> 01:05:10,859
know you know there's billions of

1701
01:05:14,569 --> 01:05:12,780
dollars being spent on pseudo solutions

1702
01:05:16,130 --> 01:05:14,579
that someone puts together

1703
01:05:17,510 --> 01:05:16,140
and this is also going to be one of the

1704
01:05:18,589 --> 01:05:17,520
appeals we're going to make an open

1705
01:05:20,870 --> 01:05:18,599
source

1706
01:05:23,030 --> 01:05:20,880
physics research and development lab

1707
01:05:25,250 --> 01:05:23,040
funded to you know 50 to 100 million

1708
01:05:28,010 --> 01:05:25,260
dollars to start with so that you can

1709
01:05:30,470 --> 01:05:28,020
put the best people in place study these

1710
01:05:32,809 --> 01:05:30,480
devices that have come and gone and

1711
01:05:35,329 --> 01:05:32,819
optimize it into a solid-state system

1712
01:05:37,910 --> 01:05:35,339
that's stable that could begin to be

1713
01:05:40,730 --> 01:05:37,920
moved out to the public I think that if

1714
01:05:42,530 --> 01:05:40,740
you had such a facility and support and

1715
01:05:45,910 --> 01:05:42,540
it was done open source you'd probably

1716
01:05:49,670 --> 01:05:45,920
would have uh at least your first system

1717
01:05:51,410 --> 01:05:49,680
developed within one to two years uh and

1718
01:05:53,450 --> 01:05:51,420
and at that point it would have to be

1719
01:05:54,890 --> 01:05:53,460
massively disclosed is there any way of

1720
01:05:56,569 --> 01:05:54,900
working with the Galileo project on

1721
01:05:58,549 --> 01:05:56,579
something like this

1722
01:06:00,289 --> 01:05:58,559
I don't think that they're focusing on

1723
01:06:02,690 --> 01:06:00,299
this or looking for things way out there

1724
01:06:05,530 --> 01:06:02,700
and and they're they're folks associated

1725
01:06:07,789 --> 01:06:05,540
with that project that are uh embedded

1726
01:06:10,069 --> 01:06:07,799
counterintelligence people would you

1727
01:06:11,990 --> 01:06:10,079
would be willing to to have Galileo's

1728
01:06:14,150 --> 01:06:12,000
equipment present during a ce5

1729
01:06:16,130 --> 01:06:14,160
Expedition

1730
01:06:17,809 --> 01:06:16,140
uh I don't I haven't drilled down on

1731
01:06:19,849 --> 01:06:17,819
what their equipment is I think they're

1732
01:06:22,130 --> 01:06:19,859
still very linear

1733
01:06:24,170 --> 01:06:22,140
and they're looking at things like the

1734
01:06:25,910 --> 01:06:24,180
electromagnetic space above the the

1735
01:06:28,670 --> 01:06:25,920
sensors they're watching for things in

1736
01:06:30,710 --> 01:06:28,680
the sky they have various cameras that

1737
01:06:31,670 --> 01:06:30,720
will triangulate uh anything that it

1738
01:06:33,230 --> 01:06:31,680
sees

1739
01:06:35,630 --> 01:06:33,240
um and they're really not

1740
01:06:36,829 --> 01:06:35,640
um you know differentiating between

1741
01:06:38,270 --> 01:06:36,839
whether they see a build or something

1742
01:06:40,789 --> 01:06:38,280
anomalous they want to gather all the

1743
01:06:42,529 --> 01:06:40,799
data they can avi's a friend so I can

1744
01:06:44,210 --> 01:06:42,539
set something up like I'm I'm just

1745
01:06:45,829 --> 01:06:44,220
curious what the answer would be well

1746
01:06:47,569 --> 01:06:45,839
it's it's certainly possible I think

1747
01:06:51,049 --> 01:06:47,579
some of that equipment could be very

1748
01:06:53,990 --> 01:06:51,059
useful during a ce5 event remember most

1749
01:06:55,670 --> 01:06:54,000
of what happens is trans-dimensional

1750
01:06:57,829 --> 01:06:55,680
um it's coming back and forth from one

1751
01:06:59,390 --> 01:06:57,839
dimension to another Trend transits

1752
01:07:01,370 --> 01:06:59,400
Dimensions

1753
01:07:03,049 --> 01:07:01,380
um anything that's truly Interstellar is

1754
01:07:05,630 --> 01:07:03,059
not going through a straight line of an

1755
01:07:08,150 --> 01:07:05,640
electromagnetic field

1756
01:07:11,089 --> 01:07:08,160
um but that means part of it is that the

1757
01:07:13,730 --> 01:07:11,099
whole understanding of the phenomenon is

1758
01:07:17,690 --> 01:07:13,740
flawed because they're trying to

1759
01:07:20,930 --> 01:07:17,700
interpret some technology that's 10 to

1760
01:07:23,390 --> 01:07:20,940
the 6th to 10 to the ninth years further

1761
01:07:25,190 --> 01:07:23,400
along than ours are

1762
01:07:27,289 --> 01:07:25,200
um using

1763
01:07:30,049 --> 01:07:27,299
nominally more sophisticated

1764
01:07:32,450 --> 01:07:30,059
understanding of physics and what

1765
01:07:34,309 --> 01:07:32,460
existed during the time of Einstein and

1766
01:07:36,230 --> 01:07:34,319
relativity in quantum physics and that's

1767
01:07:38,029 --> 01:07:36,240
not going to cut it

1768
01:07:40,130 --> 01:07:38,039
um because now we get into what the

1769
01:07:43,130 --> 01:07:40,140
ultimate Singularity is which is the

1770
01:07:46,849 --> 01:07:43,140
Consciousness field and the plasticity

1771
01:07:49,309 --> 01:07:46,859
of space and time and how all this sort

1772
01:07:51,410 --> 01:07:49,319
of phenomenon happens but so the

1773
01:07:52,690 --> 01:07:51,420
question is you have to design your

1774
01:07:55,130 --> 01:07:52,700
equipment

1775
01:07:57,289 --> 01:07:55,140
understanding a broader Spectrum now one

1776
01:07:59,630 --> 01:07:57,299
of the good things about modern cameras

1777
01:08:00,470 --> 01:07:59,640
with light cells the ccds or wherever

1778
01:08:03,589 --> 01:08:00,480
they are

1779
01:08:05,630 --> 01:08:03,599
those actually perceive and pick up data

1780
01:08:07,910 --> 01:08:05,640
much better than the human eye by far

1781
01:08:10,130 --> 01:08:07,920
and so that's one of the things we've

1782
01:08:12,410 --> 01:08:10,140
been developing is you know how do you

1783
01:08:14,029 --> 01:08:12,420
use those in a setting where an event

1784
01:08:16,490 --> 01:08:14,039
might be happening and there's some

1785
01:08:18,769 --> 01:08:16,500
prodromal some indication there's

1786
01:08:20,809 --> 01:08:18,779
something around you and you can then

1787
01:08:23,749 --> 01:08:20,819
image it with these sort of cameras at

1788
01:08:26,150 --> 01:08:23,759
what setting uh what's optimal what's

1789
01:08:27,650 --> 01:08:26,160
the exposure all that so you know if

1790
01:08:29,150 --> 01:08:27,660
they have information on that well they

1791
01:08:32,030 --> 01:08:29,160
may certainly be happy to share with

1792
01:08:33,530 --> 01:08:32,040
them what our experience has been also

1793
01:08:36,050 --> 01:08:33,540
in full disclosure I don't operate

1794
01:08:37,370 --> 01:08:36,060
cameras at all I'm you know I run the

1795
01:08:39,050 --> 01:08:37,380
other way and give me a defibrillator

1796
01:08:40,970 --> 01:08:39,060
you know but

1797
01:08:42,829 --> 01:08:40,980
um but that's that's something that you

1798
01:08:45,110 --> 01:08:42,839
have to be very useful but I think you

1799
01:08:48,590 --> 01:08:45,120
have to begin to look at it

1800
01:08:51,349 --> 01:08:48,600
everyone's trying to force around the

1801
01:08:53,030 --> 01:08:51,359
peg in a square hole when it comes to

1802
01:08:55,070 --> 01:08:53,040
the science and physics of this they're

1803
01:08:57,349 --> 01:08:55,080
not looking broadly enough

1804
01:08:59,030 --> 01:08:57,359
why would civilizations that are

1805
01:09:01,309 --> 01:08:59,040
hundreds of thousands to millions of

1806
01:09:04,910 --> 01:09:01,319
years more developed than we are be

1807
01:09:07,490 --> 01:09:04,920
using the physics that you no offense or

1808
01:09:10,970 --> 01:09:07,500
Avi would understand they're not so you

1809
01:09:15,229 --> 01:09:10,980
have to be open up to the possibility of

1810
01:09:17,030 --> 01:09:15,239
of how these sorts of phenomena happen

1811
01:09:19,249 --> 01:09:17,040
and then what are the conditions that

1812
01:09:22,610 --> 01:09:19,259
optimize them because as you get

1813
01:09:25,550 --> 01:09:22,620
increasingly into uh the the ultimate

1814
01:09:28,550 --> 01:09:25,560
non-locality and entanglement is the

1815
01:09:30,110 --> 01:09:28,560
Consciousness field and that is by the

1816
01:09:32,329 --> 01:09:30,120
way here's a hint that is the

1817
01:09:34,490 --> 01:09:32,339
singularity but it actually is

1818
01:09:36,289 --> 01:09:34,500
quantifiable for example the

1819
01:09:39,130 --> 01:09:36,299
communication systems between these

1820
01:09:41,570 --> 01:09:39,140
Interstellar civilizations are actuated

1821
01:09:43,130 --> 01:09:41,580
they have devices but they're

1822
01:09:45,349 --> 01:09:43,140
interfacing

1823
01:09:47,329 --> 01:09:45,359
at the level of the quanta of thought

1824
01:09:48,950 --> 01:09:47,339
and Consciousness I'm not talking Elon

1825
01:09:51,349 --> 01:09:48,960
Musk with a chip in your brain sort of

1826
01:09:53,030 --> 01:09:51,359
thing turning on your computer but very

1827
01:09:55,010 --> 01:09:53,040
advanced

1828
01:09:56,630 --> 01:09:55,020
um what we call technology assisted

1829
01:09:59,390 --> 01:09:56,640
Consciousness and the other way around

1830
01:10:02,150 --> 01:09:59,400
Consciousness assisted Technologies and

1831
01:10:03,650 --> 01:10:02,160
and those and so so all of that you know

1832
01:10:06,350 --> 01:10:03,660
if you're sitting out there sterily

1833
01:10:08,150 --> 01:10:06,360
trying I'm being doctor or whatever

1834
01:10:10,729 --> 01:10:08,160
um and you're you're you're locked into

1835
01:10:12,470 --> 01:10:10,739
a virtually one notch better than

1836
01:10:14,810 --> 01:10:12,480
Newtonian physics

1837
01:10:17,090 --> 01:10:14,820
you're not going to get very far because

1838
01:10:19,430 --> 01:10:17,100
you're not dealing with you know humans

1839
01:10:20,990 --> 01:10:19,440
from 2022.

1840
01:10:22,250 --> 01:10:21,000
now the people who the people in

1841
01:10:24,709 --> 01:10:22,260
classified projects would understand

1842
01:10:26,510 --> 01:10:24,719
this uh because they've been studying it

1843
01:10:28,910 --> 01:10:26,520
for a very long time down to the level

1844
01:10:30,350 --> 01:10:28,920
of the the you know science and the

1845
01:10:32,209 --> 01:10:30,360
Technologies

1846
01:10:33,950 --> 01:10:32,219
um but knowing that information is

1847
01:10:36,770 --> 01:10:33,960
useful to a research team like the

1848
01:10:38,209 --> 01:10:36,780
obvious because if they know that

1849
01:10:40,610 --> 01:10:38,219
information they're going to be able to

1850
01:10:42,410 --> 01:10:40,620
get some very good Clues on how to set

1851
01:10:45,410 --> 01:10:42,420
up their experiments and set up their

1852
01:10:48,050 --> 01:10:45,420
reconnaissance systems

1853
01:10:50,030 --> 01:10:48,060
firstly if it's a nominal increase in

1854
01:10:52,130 --> 01:10:50,040
physics from let's say Newton or

1855
01:10:54,830 --> 01:10:52,140
Einstein how is it achieved by someone

1856
01:10:56,209 --> 01:10:54,840
like Tesla Nikola Tesla and then and

1857
01:10:58,430 --> 01:10:56,219
then secondly when it comes to the volts

1858
01:11:01,010 --> 01:10:58,440
is it the static like the same volts

1859
01:11:04,250 --> 01:11:01,020
that's involved in static electricity or

1860
01:11:07,550 --> 01:11:04,260
is it of the order of Millions

1861
01:11:09,590 --> 01:11:07,560
it really depends on what you're using

1862
01:11:11,149 --> 01:11:09,600
what the substrate is you know you're

1863
01:11:14,270 --> 01:11:11,159
doing this through water you're doing

1864
01:11:15,890 --> 01:11:14,280
this through uh a crystalline material

1865
01:11:18,050 --> 01:11:15,900
are you doing it through a nano

1866
01:11:19,610 --> 01:11:18,060
crystalline material it varies this is

1867
01:11:22,310 --> 01:11:19,620
why it has to be it's sort of like a

1868
01:11:25,370 --> 01:11:22,320
tuning of the voltage combined with the

1869
01:11:27,290 --> 01:11:25,380
the frequency and that's that's where

1870
01:11:28,550 --> 01:11:27,300
you get some very major breakthroughs

1871
01:11:31,189 --> 01:11:28,560
and those principles if they're

1872
01:11:32,630 --> 01:11:31,199
understood and you look at these uh

1873
01:11:35,990 --> 01:11:32,640
technologies that have come in and gone

1874
01:11:38,149 --> 01:11:36,000
for 100 years there's a definite pattern

1875
01:11:40,729 --> 01:11:38,159
of now I'm not saying that all those

1876
01:11:43,490 --> 01:11:40,739
guys understood what was going on I

1877
01:11:46,130 --> 01:11:43,500
don't know if any anyone does yet

1878
01:11:48,050 --> 01:11:46,140
um frankly uh because but then I point

1879
01:11:50,410 --> 01:11:48,060
out you know as a medical doctor which

1880
01:11:54,530 --> 01:11:50,420
we tend to be very much more practical

1881
01:11:57,590 --> 01:11:54,540
uh we use uh the Johnson thought Fox

1882
01:11:59,390 --> 01:11:57,600
club for heart failure because it

1883
01:12:02,570 --> 01:11:59,400
increased the contractile strength of

1884
01:12:03,770 --> 01:12:02,580
the muscle for a hundred years before we

1885
01:12:07,070 --> 01:12:03,780
were able to figure out what the

1886
01:12:09,410 --> 01:12:07,080
mechanism of action on the you know very

1887
01:12:13,250 --> 01:12:09,420
fine chemical and cellular molecular

1888
01:12:16,910 --> 01:12:13,260
cellular level was aspirin well from the

1889
01:12:19,850 --> 01:12:16,920
bark of a tree right aspirin had certain

1890
01:12:22,430 --> 01:12:19,860
known observed effects but it was fairly

1891
01:12:25,370 --> 01:12:22,440
recently actually that it was understood

1892
01:12:27,050 --> 01:12:25,380
how aspirin works so you have to

1893
01:12:29,530 --> 01:12:27,060
understand that

1894
01:12:31,729 --> 01:12:29,540
in a complex

1895
01:12:34,970 --> 01:12:31,739
trans-dimensional universe

1896
01:12:38,229 --> 01:12:34,980
you're going to see effects and let's

1897
01:12:40,970 --> 01:12:38,239
just say results of certain empirical

1898
01:12:43,729 --> 01:12:40,980
configurations of electromagnetics and

1899
01:12:46,550 --> 01:12:43,739
frequencies and voltages and what have

1900
01:12:48,890 --> 01:12:46,560
you and it may be 50 or 100 years later

1901
01:12:51,110 --> 01:12:48,900
that you fully understand

1902
01:12:53,870 --> 01:12:51,120
how it's happening

1903
01:12:56,810 --> 01:12:53,880
um but I think this is this is why I

1904
01:12:58,850 --> 01:12:56,820
this is why I try to avoid people who

1905
01:13:01,070 --> 01:12:58,860
get into these physics arguments of how

1906
01:13:03,350 --> 01:13:01,080
many angels are dancing on the the head

1907
01:13:05,270 --> 01:13:03,360
of a pen because most people don't

1908
01:13:07,729 --> 01:13:05,280
realize that there's a great many things

1909
01:13:09,470 --> 01:13:07,739
we use in our society that we actually

1910
01:13:11,149 --> 01:13:09,480
don't know how they work we just know

1911
01:13:13,189 --> 01:13:11,159
they do work all right what kind of

1912
01:13:17,810 --> 01:13:13,199
Aesthetics is similar right yeah there's

1913
01:13:19,310 --> 01:13:17,820
all kinds yes all kinds of uh and I

1914
01:13:22,370 --> 01:13:19,320
think doctors are more comfortable with

1915
01:13:25,189 --> 01:13:22,380
Athen physicists because it's a much

1916
01:13:27,649 --> 01:13:25,199
more dynamic system uh because you have

1917
01:13:29,209 --> 01:13:27,659
a human being who's conscious and there

1918
01:13:31,850 --> 01:13:29,219
are all kinds of phenomena associated

1919
01:13:34,070 --> 01:13:31,860
with the mind and the body and the

1920
01:13:36,470 --> 01:13:34,080
neurons in the heart and the brain and

1921
01:13:39,110 --> 01:13:36,480
all of this and so

1922
01:13:43,430 --> 01:13:39,120
um I I think that the approach to it has

1923
01:13:45,590 --> 01:13:43,440
to be much broader uh than what people

1924
01:13:47,209 --> 01:13:45,600
think would be now from just an

1925
01:13:49,250 --> 01:13:47,219
electromagnetic engineering point of

1926
01:13:51,350 --> 01:13:49,260
view I think the reason so many of these

1927
01:13:52,850 --> 01:13:51,360
have been stumbled upon by people over

1928
01:13:56,630 --> 01:13:52,860
the last

1929
01:13:58,910 --> 01:13:56,640
100 plus years is is that it's once you

1930
01:14:00,950 --> 01:13:58,920
start playing around let's say and

1931
01:14:03,950 --> 01:14:00,960
experimenting it's empirical with

1932
01:14:07,189 --> 01:14:03,960
certain types of materials and certain

1933
01:14:10,070 --> 01:14:07,199
types of electronic frequencies

1934
01:14:12,890 --> 01:14:10,080
you get into some phenomenon I mean up

1935
01:14:14,590 --> 01:14:12,900
to and including bringing tapping into

1936
01:14:16,729 --> 01:14:14,600
other dimensions that could bring

1937
01:14:18,830 --> 01:14:16,739
Critters From Another Dimension into

1938
01:14:20,990 --> 01:14:18,840
this Dimension I mean they did this at

1939
01:14:22,790 --> 01:14:21,000
the cube at the Lockheed the Skunk Works

1940
01:14:25,490 --> 01:14:22,800
uh and I I know also at a couple other

1941
01:14:27,590 --> 01:14:25,500
labs that have

1942
01:14:29,689 --> 01:14:27,600
yeah but this gets into stranger things

1943
01:14:32,570 --> 01:14:29,699
I'm sure some people would be thinking

1944
01:14:34,189 --> 01:14:32,580
like okay that's a huge claim a huge I'm

1945
01:14:36,050 --> 01:14:34,199
not of the sort that says huge claims

1946
01:14:37,310 --> 01:14:36,060
require huge evidence because evidence

1947
01:14:40,430 --> 01:14:37,320
is evident it's not like there's huge

1948
01:14:42,649 --> 01:14:40,440
evidence and and diminutive evidence so

1949
01:14:45,590 --> 01:14:42,659
but either way like evidence is evidence

1950
01:14:47,990 --> 01:14:45,600
and I'm curious so do you mind

1951
01:14:49,970 --> 01:14:48,000
expounding on this claim of if you tap

1952
01:14:53,330 --> 01:14:49,980
into so and so

1953
01:14:54,890 --> 01:14:53,340
physics I'm unsure what that precisely

1954
01:14:57,590 --> 01:14:54,900
means but if you tap into so and so

1955
01:15:00,229 --> 01:14:57,600
physics under certain configurations

1956
01:15:03,229 --> 01:15:00,239
a dimension has opened up and different

1957
01:15:05,030 --> 01:15:03,239
entities can come in or go out yeah like

1958
01:15:07,910 --> 01:15:05,040
please expand on that and then and then

1959
01:15:09,950 --> 01:15:07,920
with the key of of technicality if you

1960
01:15:11,870 --> 01:15:09,960
can because like that's what this

1961
01:15:13,910 --> 01:15:11,880
podcast is known for equations if you

1962
01:15:15,890 --> 01:15:13,920
can if there are I know that's a strange

1963
01:15:17,689 --> 01:15:15,900
thing to ask I don't think physicists

1964
01:15:18,950 --> 01:15:17,699
are anywhere near as close-minded as you

1965
01:15:21,110 --> 01:15:18,960
suggest you know there's many ideas

1966
01:15:23,930 --> 01:15:21,120
Multiverse String Theory those are far

1967
01:15:25,610 --> 01:15:23,940
from Newtonian mechanics and you

1968
01:15:28,310 --> 01:15:25,620
mentioned Maxwell and pointing vectors

1969
01:15:30,229 --> 01:15:28,320
if just manipulating those or what's

1970
01:15:32,030 --> 01:15:30,239
required or some other Factor needs to

1971
01:15:33,649 --> 01:15:32,040
be added that was taken out by heavy

1972
01:15:35,090 --> 01:15:33,659
side it's not as if that's not known to

1973
01:15:36,830 --> 01:15:35,100
physicists or out of the realm of what

1974
01:15:38,450 --> 01:15:36,840
they would accept playing with and so on

1975
01:15:40,250 --> 01:15:38,460
okay so anyway going back to this

1976
01:15:43,070 --> 01:15:40,260
assertion about the entities coming in

1977
01:15:45,050 --> 01:15:43,080
and out well again you know I I it what

1978
01:15:47,990 --> 01:15:45,060
what they did experimentally is they

1979
01:15:50,470 --> 01:15:48,000
would have a very similar toroid device

1980
01:15:55,910 --> 01:15:50,480
and

1981
01:15:57,530 --> 01:15:55,920
there are you could you know there the

1982
01:15:59,990 --> 01:15:57,540
algorithm for this would be millions of

1983
01:16:02,090 --> 01:16:00,000
that could be combined they would have

1984
01:16:06,530 --> 01:16:02,100
weird stuff like stranger things or

1985
01:16:08,209 --> 01:16:06,540
Montauk Boom come into the lab and this

1986
01:16:10,910 --> 01:16:08,219
I know three different Labs where this

1987
01:16:13,130 --> 01:16:10,920
has happened they can also alter space

1988
01:16:15,410 --> 01:16:13,140
time there's a guy down in the near the

1989
01:16:17,990 --> 01:16:15,420
Redstone Arsenal that had one of these

1990
01:16:20,209 --> 01:16:18,000
systems and it would actually snap time

1991
01:16:23,330 --> 01:16:20,219
you know so the environment around where

1992
01:16:25,370 --> 01:16:23,340
he was working altered uh off the

1993
01:16:30,950 --> 01:16:25,380
timeline back and forth

1994
01:16:34,370 --> 01:16:30,960
uh very very unusual uh phenomenon and

1995
01:16:35,930 --> 01:16:34,380
that guy uh brilliant physicist and

1996
01:16:39,470 --> 01:16:35,940
engineer

1997
01:16:43,189 --> 01:16:39,480
he works through a contractor for the

1998
01:16:45,350 --> 01:16:43,199
CIA but uh and I've been in his skiff

1999
01:16:49,550 --> 01:16:45,360
and and where he does his work

2000
01:16:51,709 --> 01:16:49,560
so uh now again I'm not I don't build

2001
01:16:53,630 --> 01:16:51,719
these systems I understand the

2002
01:16:55,370 --> 01:16:53,640
principles how they work but that kind

2003
01:16:58,130 --> 01:16:55,380
of phenomenon has been observed by

2004
01:17:01,610 --> 01:16:58,140
people in these specialized labs for

2005
01:17:04,070 --> 01:17:01,620
gosh I mean decades switch laps three

2006
01:17:06,890 --> 01:17:04,080
Labs which of them the Lockheed Skunk

2007
01:17:09,470 --> 01:17:06,900
Works in the cube this skiff that's down

2008
01:17:13,250 --> 01:17:09,480
near the Redstone Arsenal and the uh the

2009
01:17:18,790 --> 01:17:15,649
a long island is this related at all to

2010
01:17:22,450 --> 01:17:18,800
what's happening at skinwalker

2011
01:17:27,290 --> 01:17:22,460
yes because remember Skinwalker

2012
01:17:31,370 --> 01:17:27,300
was a Native American known area of

2013
01:17:34,790 --> 01:17:31,380
unusual phenomenon contact there's a

2014
01:17:36,410 --> 01:17:34,800
gentleman named uh Bob Bigelow Robert

2015
01:17:39,290 --> 01:17:36,420
Bigelow who I first met at the

2016
01:17:42,709 --> 01:17:39,300
Rockefeller Ranch in 1993

2017
01:17:44,890 --> 01:17:42,719
who uh along with some of his Sidekicks

2018
01:17:48,590 --> 01:17:44,900
uh

2019
01:17:51,649 --> 01:17:48,600
Colonel John Alexander and others wanted

2020
01:17:53,390 --> 01:17:51,659
to acquire that property and in the

2021
01:17:55,010 --> 01:17:53,400
Rancher didn't want to sell it so they

2022
01:17:58,610 --> 01:17:55,020
set up a lot of this

2023
01:18:02,149 --> 01:17:58,620
uh weird wsfm electromagnetic phenomenon

2024
01:18:05,330 --> 01:18:02,159
that was scariest and the guy

2025
01:18:07,490 --> 01:18:05,340
relented and eventually sold it it has

2026
01:18:09,169 --> 01:18:07,500
since been resold to another person of

2027
01:18:12,830 --> 01:18:09,179
course I guess has been sensationalized

2028
01:18:14,810 --> 01:18:12,840
in some TV show but the uh there's a lot

2029
01:18:17,570 --> 01:18:14,820
of activity going on underground there

2030
01:18:19,610 --> 01:18:17,580
but we were out there about a year and a

2031
01:18:23,149 --> 01:18:19,620
little over a year ago and observed uh

2032
01:18:27,290 --> 01:18:23,159
late night uh what very much sounds like

2033
01:18:29,689 --> 01:18:27,300
under under this facility Drilling

2034
01:18:32,630 --> 01:18:29,699
um and uh building of something deep

2035
01:18:35,030 --> 01:18:32,640
underground and my understanding it's

2036
01:18:37,970 --> 01:18:35,040
sort of like the um

2037
01:18:40,250 --> 01:18:37,980
uh the Brad uh the Bradshaw Ranch in

2038
01:18:42,770 --> 01:18:40,260
Sedona they got taken over by and turned

2039
01:18:46,189 --> 01:18:42,780
into a black site so I think that the

2040
01:18:48,590 --> 01:18:46,199
Skinwalker Ranch has all kinds of weird

2041
01:18:51,110 --> 01:18:48,600
phenomenon that has to do with this kind

2042
01:18:52,850 --> 01:18:51,120
of experimentation and that it has

2043
01:18:56,390 --> 01:18:52,860
nothing to do with what was innately

2044
01:18:58,729 --> 01:18:56,400
there prior to uh so I think this is

2045
01:19:01,189 --> 01:18:58,739
again often when there's something quite

2046
01:19:03,050 --> 01:19:01,199
interesting happening like that you have

2047
01:19:04,550 --> 01:19:03,060
people from who are fronting for the

2048
01:19:07,910 --> 01:19:04,560
intelligence Community or being

2049
01:19:09,530 --> 01:19:07,920
manipulated by them who then acquired as

2050
01:19:11,030 --> 01:19:09,540
an asset

2051
01:19:12,950 --> 01:19:11,040
um and so that you know sort of what's

2052
01:19:14,689 --> 01:19:12,960
called capture where it'll get you know

2053
01:19:18,169 --> 01:19:14,699
they'll try to capture that and then use

2054
01:19:21,110 --> 01:19:18,179
it to their own purposes and whatever is

2055
01:19:22,970 --> 01:19:21,120
going on after they get involved it has

2056
01:19:23,870 --> 01:19:22,980
a faint resemblance to what was there

2057
01:19:26,630 --> 01:19:23,880
prior

2058
01:19:28,130 --> 01:19:26,640
to the acquisition so my understanding

2059
01:19:29,750 --> 01:19:28,140
is that we went out there and did

2060
01:19:34,390 --> 01:19:29,760
actually a close encounter of the fifth

2061
01:19:38,270 --> 01:19:34,400
kind C5 contact event uh in June of 2021

2062
01:19:40,070 --> 01:19:38,280
very interesting yeah well no on a Mesa

2063
01:19:41,990 --> 01:19:40,080
overlooking it so we were near it we

2064
01:19:44,330 --> 01:19:42,000
weren't on the property so we're talking

2065
01:19:46,910 --> 01:19:44,340
in the U inter Basin yeah

2066
01:19:49,490 --> 01:19:46,920
well it was on a some private land

2067
01:19:51,530 --> 01:19:49,500
adjacent to and sort of above where the

2068
01:19:55,070 --> 01:19:51,540
ranch would be if you went down so yeah

2069
01:19:56,689 --> 01:19:55,080
same in in Basin book very close

2070
01:20:00,130 --> 01:19:56,699
and uh

2071
01:20:02,570 --> 01:20:00,140
so so I mean you know

2072
01:20:04,250 --> 01:20:02,580
nothing all that extraordinary except we

2073
01:20:06,830 --> 01:20:04,260
did observe

2074
01:20:09,410 --> 01:20:06,840
um this sound of drilling and of course

2075
01:20:11,149 --> 01:20:09,420
it it reminded me of uh back in the 80s

2076
01:20:14,090 --> 01:20:11,159
you know the new agers were going on

2077
01:20:17,209 --> 01:20:14,100
about the Taos hum uh and you know

2078
01:20:19,250 --> 01:20:17,219
around Taos New Mexico and

2079
01:20:21,550 --> 01:20:19,260
um and out in that area of Northern New

2080
01:20:24,530 --> 01:20:21,560
Mexico and of course that was a Bechtel

2081
01:20:26,750 --> 01:20:24,540
uh nuclear-powered tunneling machine

2082
01:20:29,090 --> 01:20:26,760
making the connector between Los Alamos

2083
01:20:31,669 --> 01:20:29,100
and the Dulce area which cannot be

2084
01:20:35,090 --> 01:20:31,679
accessed from the ground or above but

2085
01:20:37,669 --> 01:20:35,100
only from a tunneling uh and that was uh

2086
01:20:40,430 --> 01:20:37,679
you know that device was brought on in

2087
01:20:42,229 --> 01:20:40,440
the 60s 70s but it's and of course it's

2088
01:20:43,490 --> 01:20:42,239
classified it's nuclear powered so

2089
01:20:44,870 --> 01:20:43,500
people would not like the idea of some

2090
01:20:47,870 --> 01:20:44,880
nuclear-powered thing running under

2091
01:20:51,410 --> 01:20:47,880
their uh land but that's how you connect

2092
01:20:55,250 --> 01:20:51,420
say from Edwards to Nellis or Los Alamos

2093
01:20:57,110 --> 01:20:55,260
to Dulce and so it sounds like from what

2094
01:20:58,729 --> 01:20:57,120
I understand you know that that's

2095
01:21:00,350 --> 01:20:58,739
happening at the skin walker Ranch

2096
01:21:03,410 --> 01:21:00,360
probably connecting out to another

2097
01:21:05,630 --> 01:21:03,420
facility like The dugway Proving Grounds

2098
01:21:08,390 --> 01:21:05,640
or someplace like that

2099
01:21:10,490 --> 01:21:08,400
in Utah dugway is a very key I mean

2100
01:21:13,189 --> 01:21:10,500
certainly I think that much more

2101
01:21:16,070 --> 01:21:13,199
significant than so-called Area 51 is

2102
01:21:18,050 --> 01:21:16,080
this newer underground dumb as they're

2103
01:21:21,169 --> 01:21:18,060
called Deep Underground military base

2104
01:21:23,570 --> 01:21:21,179
operations out near dugway you know you

2105
01:21:26,149 --> 01:21:23,580
spoke a little yeah okay there's this

2106
01:21:28,070 --> 01:21:26,159
claim about the Atacama mummy that it

2107
01:21:30,970 --> 01:21:28,080
was faked or that junk science was done

2108
01:21:33,169 --> 01:21:30,980
on it and foreign

2109
01:21:35,570 --> 01:21:33,179
when I was doing some research into this

2110
01:21:37,970 --> 01:21:35,580
there's four Stanford professors where

2111
01:21:40,189 --> 01:21:37,980
specialists in DNA and genomics and

2112
01:21:42,050 --> 01:21:40,199
pediatric disorders and so on graduate

2113
01:21:43,729 --> 01:21:42,060
students pull stocks and so on so that

2114
01:21:45,290 --> 01:21:43,739
helped analyze and collect the data so

2115
01:21:48,410 --> 01:21:45,300
what's your evidence for claiming that

2116
01:21:50,930 --> 01:21:48,420
it's fake why do you say that well the

2117
01:21:53,930 --> 01:21:50,940
principal person who said he would do

2118
01:21:55,750 --> 01:21:53,940
the testing on it at Stanford he got a

2119
01:21:58,669 --> 01:21:55,760
three three and a half million dollar

2120
01:22:00,350 --> 01:21:58,679
teal Grant sort of a made-up Grant from

2121
01:22:03,470 --> 01:22:00,360
the Department of Defense about the time

2122
01:22:05,450 --> 01:22:03,480
I handed off the genetic sample at that

2123
01:22:07,250 --> 01:22:05,460
point there were people who don't want

2124
01:22:10,070 --> 01:22:07,260
to be named who offered to help them do

2125
01:22:11,990 --> 01:22:10,080
it on what's called ancient DNA ancient

2126
01:22:14,149 --> 01:22:12,000
doesn't mean thousands of years old but

2127
01:22:16,790 --> 01:22:14,159
in other words it's desiccated and it's

2128
01:22:19,910 --> 01:22:16,800
from a deceased creature

2129
01:22:22,970 --> 01:22:19,920
um he refused that help uh one of the

2130
01:22:25,669 --> 01:22:22,980
men who evalued that gentleman and a man

2131
01:22:28,189 --> 01:22:25,679
who worked with Watson and Crick and has

2132
01:22:31,189 --> 01:22:28,199
many many patents and is one of the

2133
01:22:32,990 --> 01:22:31,199
Premier geneticists in the world looked

2134
01:22:35,510 --> 01:22:33,000
at their data actually went into the

2135
01:22:39,770 --> 01:22:35,520
database and it was quite clear that it

2136
01:22:42,169 --> 01:22:39,780
was skewed and defrauded and altered but

2137
01:22:45,470 --> 01:22:42,179
because they were able to get these guys

2138
01:22:47,090 --> 01:22:45,480
names on that uh yeah if you look at we

2139
01:22:51,590 --> 01:22:47,100
they're on our YouTube channel there's

2140
01:22:53,570 --> 01:22:51,600
an entire expose about this and what the

2141
01:22:54,890 --> 01:22:53,580
reports are and I've left the guy's

2142
01:22:57,709 --> 01:22:54,900
names off of it because they don't want

2143
01:23:00,110 --> 01:22:57,719
to be attacked for having pointed out

2144
01:23:02,750 --> 01:23:00,120
the fraud that would happen at UCSF in

2145
01:23:05,390 --> 01:23:02,760
Stanford which I'm not proud to say I

2146
01:23:08,450 --> 01:23:05,400
have a daughter who got her phds at UCSF

2147
01:23:10,490 --> 01:23:08,460
but I have a daughter Stanford so I mean

2148
01:23:12,709 --> 01:23:10,500
I just think that it's a tragedy that

2149
01:23:15,169 --> 01:23:12,719
this happens science happens all the

2150
01:23:17,030 --> 01:23:15,179
time and the whistleblowers who know

2151
01:23:18,250 --> 01:23:17,040
about it often have their career is

2152
01:23:21,530 --> 01:23:18,260
ruined

2153
01:23:24,709 --> 01:23:21,540
but I think that that was a classic case

2154
01:23:26,390 --> 01:23:24,719
of junk science being pushed forward as

2155
01:23:28,970 --> 01:23:26,400
results and it wasn't

2156
01:23:30,950 --> 01:23:28,980
so if you if you're an expert in that

2157
01:23:32,810 --> 01:23:30,960
area and you don't look at just the text

2158
01:23:34,510 --> 01:23:32,820
of the paper but actually drill down now

2159
01:23:37,189 --> 01:23:34,520
we still don't know what this Atacama

2160
01:23:39,950 --> 01:23:37,199
creature is I have no idea what it is I

2161
01:23:41,750 --> 01:23:39,960
never said it was alien I just said that

2162
01:23:43,790 --> 01:23:41,760
it doesn't conform with any known

2163
01:23:47,330 --> 01:23:43,800
organism and in fact

2164
01:23:49,370 --> 01:23:47,340
a Dr lockman Who is the um you know kind

2165
01:23:51,470 --> 01:23:49,380
of world's expert on genetic bone

2166
01:23:54,410 --> 01:23:51,480
deformities said definitively and this

2167
01:23:56,930 --> 01:23:54,420
is in our reports on our website that

2168
01:23:58,910 --> 01:23:56,940
this was a a creature that was at least

2169
01:24:01,490 --> 01:23:58,920
six years of old by looking at the bones

2170
01:24:03,530 --> 01:24:01,500
and the epiphyseal closures you know

2171
01:24:05,390 --> 01:24:03,540
where the bones the growth plates and

2172
01:24:08,270 --> 01:24:05,400
and their development it'd be the

2173
01:24:10,250 --> 01:24:08,280
equivalent of a six-year-old human in

2174
01:24:12,110 --> 01:24:10,260
terms of its bone development let me be

2175
01:24:14,810 --> 01:24:12,120
clear it just so it's the claim that he

2176
01:24:16,910 --> 01:24:14,820
lied for money is that the claim or or

2177
01:24:18,250 --> 01:24:16,920
that he didn't know exactly what he was

2178
01:24:21,050 --> 01:24:18,260
doing what is the

2179
01:24:22,669 --> 01:24:21,060
we don't know it needs to be uh

2180
01:24:25,130 --> 01:24:22,679
investigated you know we have

2181
01:24:28,070 --> 01:24:25,140
recommended that Stanford and UCSF and

2182
01:24:30,830 --> 01:24:28,080
and uh Cold Spring Harbor the the where

2183
01:24:32,810 --> 01:24:30,840
they published the article originally uh

2184
01:24:34,610 --> 01:24:32,820
launch an investigation

2185
01:24:36,410 --> 01:24:34,620
um because there's something that is

2186
01:24:38,030 --> 01:24:36,420
very not right with this

2187
01:24:40,070 --> 01:24:38,040
and this is according to people who are

2188
01:24:44,390 --> 01:24:40,080
way past my specialty as a doctor who

2189
01:24:47,090 --> 01:24:44,400
are real renowned experts and genetics

2190
01:24:49,850 --> 01:24:47,100
and molecular biology where they clearly

2191
01:24:53,209 --> 01:24:49,860
can prove that this was deliberately

2192
01:24:54,350 --> 01:24:53,219
done improperly so would they be willing

2193
01:24:56,510 --> 01:24:54,360
but these are the anonymous people

2194
01:24:57,830 --> 01:24:56,520
you're referring to or oh I'm sure they

2195
01:24:59,870 --> 01:24:57,840
would that they would succumb to a

2196
01:25:02,270 --> 01:24:59,880
subpoena they're not going to be on a

2197
01:25:04,430 --> 01:25:02,280
salacious UFOs show or something where

2198
01:25:07,189 --> 01:25:04,440
would they write a peer review paper

2199
01:25:10,790 --> 01:25:07,199
where other people not involved you know

2200
01:25:13,490 --> 01:25:10,800
with some lab could I asked them to but

2201
01:25:15,470 --> 01:25:13,500
I think they're they're intimidated they

2202
01:25:18,530 --> 01:25:15,480
see this big machine of disinformation

2203
01:25:20,270 --> 01:25:18,540
running them over and one of them has

2204
01:25:23,330 --> 01:25:20,280
his own biotech company

2205
01:25:26,270 --> 01:25:23,340
and uh the other one is is up there in

2206
01:25:27,169 --> 01:25:26,280
years and uh he just doesn't want the

2207
01:25:28,970 --> 01:25:27,179
grief

2208
01:25:30,890 --> 01:25:28,980
you know he's I think he's in his 80s

2209
01:25:33,310 --> 01:25:30,900
but I mean he had worked with Watson and

2210
01:25:35,689 --> 01:25:33,320
Crick and you know a very renowned

2211
01:25:38,330 --> 01:25:35,699
Caltech molecular biologist and

2212
01:25:39,709 --> 01:25:38,340
geneticist and you know I've had some

2213
01:25:41,090 --> 01:25:39,719
serious people look at it this has been

2214
01:25:43,250 --> 01:25:41,100
one of my frustrations we're going to

2215
01:25:44,870 --> 01:25:43,260
have to have people who are willing to

2216
01:25:46,790 --> 01:25:44,880
you know when you find this kind of

2217
01:25:49,790 --> 01:25:46,800
corruption most people don't want to

2218
01:25:51,709 --> 01:25:49,800
take on the Scandal and and the

2219
01:25:54,050 --> 01:25:51,719
controversy and the blowback that

2220
01:25:56,270 --> 01:25:54,060
happens uh because usually you know it's

2221
01:25:57,410 --> 01:25:56,280
not a good thing to be a whistleblower

2222
01:25:59,510 --> 01:25:57,420
um particularly when you're going up

2223
01:26:02,330 --> 01:25:59,520
against a power structure of corrupt

2224
01:26:05,350 --> 01:26:02,340
interests so exactly how it happened and

2225
01:26:07,970 --> 01:26:05,360
why I have my own Theory

2226
01:26:09,890 --> 01:26:07,980
uh but I just point out it's a very

2227
01:26:12,290 --> 01:26:09,900
unusual coincidence that they got a

2228
01:26:14,030 --> 01:26:12,300
three and a half million dollar kind of

2229
01:26:16,669 --> 01:26:14,040
one-off made up deal Grant from the

2230
01:26:19,070 --> 01:26:16,679
Pentagon at the time of the handoff of

2231
01:26:21,590 --> 01:26:19,080
the genetic material as a logical point

2232
01:26:23,570 --> 01:26:21,600
it's not always the case that the money

2233
01:26:25,729 --> 01:26:23,580
has a causal effect in some other area

2234
01:26:27,890 --> 01:26:25,739
so for instance I'm sure that people

2235
01:26:29,930 --> 01:26:27,900
have thrown accusations at do like look

2236
01:26:32,030 --> 01:26:29,940
you've raised x amount or you want x

2237
01:26:33,709 --> 01:26:32,040
amount or you're given x amount but

2238
01:26:36,290 --> 01:26:33,719
you're like that doesn't tarnish what I

2239
01:26:39,169 --> 01:26:36,300
do so even if that's the case well but

2240
01:26:41,870 --> 01:26:39,179
the the timing is suspicious and forget

2241
01:26:44,870 --> 01:26:41,880
about that it's the results if you're if

2242
01:26:47,930 --> 01:26:44,880
you I challenge anyone to go into actual

2243
01:26:49,610 --> 01:26:47,940
the database attached to that report and

2244
01:26:51,530 --> 01:26:49,620
not come to the same conclusion these

2245
01:26:53,870 --> 01:26:51,540
other scientists have come to but nobody

2246
01:26:56,090 --> 01:26:53,880
does that they just read the paper and

2247
01:26:58,550 --> 01:26:56,100
the conclusions they're not going into

2248
01:27:01,010 --> 01:26:58,560
the whole methodology and the ones who

2249
01:27:03,649 --> 01:27:01,020
have every single one of them have

2250
01:27:05,689 --> 01:27:03,659
concluded the same thing so you know

2251
01:27:07,490 --> 01:27:05,699
that's water under the bridge I mean

2252
01:27:11,090 --> 01:27:07,500
it's just something I've come to expect

2253
01:27:12,770 --> 01:27:11,100
from people in Academia

2254
01:27:14,330 --> 01:27:12,780
it would it would be great if we could

2255
01:27:15,729 --> 01:27:14,340
see a peer review paper come from

2256
01:27:18,470 --> 01:27:15,739
somewhere

2257
01:27:20,270 --> 01:27:18,480
you find some honest people who aren't

2258
01:27:22,850 --> 01:27:20,280
subject to threats and bribes and and

2259
01:27:26,510 --> 01:27:22,860
I'll give them I will give them a

2260
01:27:28,430 --> 01:27:26,520
retained sample of the DNA okay great

2261
01:27:31,189 --> 01:27:28,440
because we have we we think we didn't

2262
01:27:33,050 --> 01:27:31,199
give oh trust me

2263
01:27:35,270 --> 01:27:33,060
in the beginning you mentioned you would

2264
01:27:36,790 --> 01:27:35,280
like people who are afraid for their

2265
01:27:40,490 --> 01:27:36,800
lives they have some free energy

2266
01:27:43,010 --> 01:27:40,500
Enterprise or or invention to come to

2267
01:27:46,189 --> 01:27:43,020
you and and hey there's a 200 trillion

2268
01:27:48,649 --> 01:27:46,199
dollar industry of energy or after that

2269
01:27:50,209 --> 01:27:48,659
yeah that would come down on them but

2270
01:27:52,669 --> 01:27:50,219
you're saying look look I can protect

2271
01:27:54,770 --> 01:27:52,679
you and you shouldn't be afraid no no

2272
01:27:56,870 --> 01:27:54,780
the protection is the massive disclosure

2273
01:27:58,669 --> 01:27:56,880
of see what people don't understand is

2274
01:28:00,410 --> 01:27:58,679
that if you keep it secret

2275
01:28:02,810 --> 01:28:00,420
and you're the only person that knows or

2276
01:28:03,770 --> 01:28:02,820
10 people who know about it you're very

2277
01:28:05,870 --> 01:28:03,780
vulnerable

2278
01:28:08,510 --> 01:28:05,880
I mean it's just it should be common

2279
01:28:10,669 --> 01:28:08,520
sense and you want to get it out of you

2280
01:28:13,970 --> 01:28:10,679
know you get that hot potato out of just

2281
01:28:17,090 --> 01:28:13,980
your own uh house you want to have it

2282
01:28:19,610 --> 01:28:17,100
out there also so that peer review

2283
01:28:21,590 --> 01:28:19,620
people can say all right here's the

2284
01:28:24,129 --> 01:28:21,600
plans for it let's reproduce it because

2285
01:28:26,090 --> 01:28:24,139
this is sent upon of science is

2286
01:28:28,129 --> 01:28:26,100
independent verification and

2287
01:28:30,050 --> 01:28:28,139
reproducibility that's the other problem

2288
01:28:32,330 --> 01:28:30,060
that doesn't happen because people are

2289
01:28:34,149 --> 01:28:32,340
conditioned by venture capital and their

2290
01:28:36,350 --> 01:28:34,159
investors keep it secret keep it secret

2291
01:28:38,330 --> 01:28:36,360
but that really when you're dealing with

2292
01:28:40,729 --> 01:28:38,340
a fundamental new area of science that

2293
01:28:42,950 --> 01:28:40,739
doesn't work it needs to be put out

2294
01:28:45,590 --> 01:28:42,960
there to be checked and reproduced by

2295
01:28:47,870 --> 01:28:45,600
other uh people skilled in the art as

2296
01:28:50,270 --> 01:28:47,880
they would say of of electromagnetic

2297
01:28:53,450 --> 01:28:50,280
engineering and physics so I think

2298
01:28:55,850 --> 01:28:53,460
that's that's the recommendation uh it's

2299
01:28:57,530 --> 01:28:55,860
a it's a treat it's a strategic

2300
01:28:59,629 --> 01:28:57,540
recommendation as opposed to saying I

2301
01:29:02,030 --> 01:28:59,639
personally but I could help with that I

2302
01:29:04,129 --> 01:29:02,040
know that we could help with that

2303
01:29:06,169 --> 01:29:04,139
um but the mistake that they all make is

2304
01:29:08,870 --> 01:29:06,179
is taking the advice of lawyers and

2305
01:29:11,629 --> 01:29:08,880
businessmen and conventional Venture

2306
01:29:13,430 --> 01:29:11,639
Capital people who uh of course are

2307
01:29:15,169 --> 01:29:13,440
doing what would conventionally be done

2308
01:29:17,689 --> 01:29:15,179
and I would say that if you're inventing

2309
01:29:20,390 --> 01:29:17,699
a new iPhone or a new software program

2310
01:29:21,950 --> 01:29:20,400
okay maybe that works

2311
01:29:24,709 --> 01:29:21,960
um when you're dealing with a technology

2312
01:29:27,410 --> 01:29:24,719
that's going to upend the whole Petra

2313
01:29:29,570 --> 01:29:27,420
dollar and macro economics structure on

2314
01:29:31,970 --> 01:29:29,580
the planet that is based on the type of

2315
01:29:34,129 --> 01:29:31,980
energy system we use you're dealing with

2316
01:29:36,890 --> 01:29:34,139
a different set of strategic variables

2317
01:29:38,510 --> 01:29:36,900
and you have to alter your plan

2318
01:29:40,669 --> 01:29:38,520
accordingly but that doesn't happen

2319
01:29:43,490 --> 01:29:40,679
they're all making the same predictable

2320
01:29:45,229 --> 01:29:43,500
mistakes for 100 years and that's it's a

2321
01:29:48,169 --> 01:29:45,239
tragedy and I think we're not going to

2322
01:29:51,410 --> 01:29:48,179
change the outcome I don't care who the

2323
01:29:53,570 --> 01:29:51,420
person is uh I know that there are folks

2324
01:29:56,629 --> 01:29:53,580
like Dr Randall Mills had blacklight

2325
01:29:58,850 --> 01:29:56,639
power something like 100 million dollars

2326
01:30:00,950 --> 01:29:58,860
um it was all very secretive they

2327
01:30:03,370 --> 01:30:00,960
vanished you know I mean you know these

2328
01:30:06,350 --> 01:30:03,380
things happen with great periodic

2329
01:30:08,689 --> 01:30:06,360
predictability and there are a certain

2330
01:30:10,970 --> 01:30:08,699
number of errors that are made over and

2331
01:30:13,129 --> 01:30:10,980
over and over and over again and and so

2332
01:30:14,689 --> 01:30:13,139
I think that's the problem and the only

2333
01:30:17,510 --> 01:30:14,699
way I see out of it

2334
01:30:19,310 --> 01:30:17,520
is you either have to have someone who's

2335
01:30:22,129 --> 01:30:19,320
well healed enough to buy the technology

2336
01:30:24,110 --> 01:30:22,139
out and then open source it or you have

2337
01:30:27,229 --> 01:30:24,120
to have a lab that gets created that is

2338
01:30:30,890 --> 01:30:27,239
fundamental organizing principle is

2339
01:30:33,790 --> 01:30:30,900
academic and scientific and Engineering

2340
01:30:36,830 --> 01:30:33,800
cooperation on an open source platform

2341
01:30:39,709 --> 01:30:36,840
uh blockchained or something and that

2342
01:30:42,290 --> 01:30:39,719
anything that is discovered and verified

2343
01:30:43,970 --> 01:30:42,300
is released in real time and keeps and

2344
01:30:46,189 --> 01:30:43,980
once you have something operational that

2345
01:30:48,050 --> 01:30:46,199
functions then that needs to be

2346
01:30:50,990 --> 01:30:48,060
disclosed as I mentioned through all

2347
01:30:53,750 --> 01:30:51,000
kinds of creative efforts because the

2348
01:30:56,090 --> 01:30:53,760
corrupting influence of folks who want

2349
01:30:57,890 --> 01:30:56,100
to keep this quiet I mean there are all

2350
01:31:01,129 --> 01:30:57,900
kinds of investigative reports that have

2351
01:31:04,030 --> 01:31:01,139
proven how various cartels and corporate

2352
01:31:06,709 --> 01:31:04,040
interests can submarine

2353
01:31:09,050 --> 01:31:06,719
technology that's going to be a threat I

2354
01:31:11,209 --> 01:31:09,060
mean you know don't take my word the the

2355
01:31:13,550 --> 01:31:11,219
Federation of American scientists so

2356
01:31:15,649 --> 01:31:13,560
about a decade or 12 years ago came out

2357
01:31:17,689 --> 01:31:15,659
with a report of over 5 five thousand

2358
01:31:19,970 --> 01:31:17,699
patents that have been seized under

2359
01:31:21,709 --> 01:31:19,980
National Security orders and one of them

2360
01:31:24,649 --> 01:31:21,719
was something that sounds so trivial now

2361
01:31:27,350 --> 01:31:24,659
than the 1970s 50 years ago would have

2362
01:31:29,510 --> 01:31:27,360
just been a very high efficiency solar

2363
01:31:31,490 --> 01:31:29,520
panel more efficient than anything that

2364
01:31:33,649 --> 01:31:31,500
was out there but it would have competed

2365
01:31:35,390 --> 01:31:33,659
with the price point of oil and coal and

2366
01:31:38,090 --> 01:31:35,400
and gas and power from your power

2367
01:31:39,890 --> 01:31:38,100
company and so that I know I know you

2368
01:31:42,470 --> 01:31:39,900
don't have the patent at hand but what

2369
01:31:44,629 --> 01:31:42,480
is this that it's on our website it's in

2370
01:31:47,689 --> 01:31:44,639
the movies it's everywhere we have

2371
01:31:49,669 --> 01:31:47,699
everything please read

2372
01:31:51,470 --> 01:31:49,679
um you know you wave your hand and say

2373
01:31:54,590 --> 01:31:51,480
that well where is it it's the America

2374
01:31:56,450 --> 01:31:54,600
the Federation of American Sciences uh

2375
01:32:00,830 --> 01:31:56,460
it's Stephen after good is the guy who

2376
01:32:03,169 --> 01:32:00,840
authored it it's a paper read it 2010 it

2377
01:32:06,470 --> 01:32:03,179
came out 20 October 2010 so we're 12

2378
01:32:08,750 --> 01:32:06,480
years ago so um it's there we published

2379
01:32:14,050 --> 01:32:08,760
it you know the fact that you haven't

2380
01:32:18,350 --> 01:32:16,790
I'm telling your attitude it's like I am

2381
01:32:19,189 --> 01:32:18,360
where is it I said what's there I'm

2382
01:32:20,510 --> 01:32:19,199
telling you everything I'm telling you

2383
01:32:23,209 --> 01:32:20,520
is there it's out there in open source

2384
01:32:25,189 --> 01:32:23,219
let's get some some positive testimony

2385
01:32:27,770 --> 01:32:25,199
you've had um you know you were talking

2386
01:32:29,810 --> 01:32:27,780
about strategizing earlier and how

2387
01:32:31,430 --> 01:32:29,820
um you you know you you've uh built

2388
01:32:33,169 --> 01:32:31,440
Bridges with a lot of really great

2389
01:32:35,330 --> 01:32:33,179
celebrities who can get the word out and

2390
01:32:37,490 --> 01:32:35,340
things like this one of those people

2391
01:32:38,930 --> 01:32:37,500
um historically was was Tom Delong who

2392
01:32:40,310 --> 01:32:38,940
who helped with to the staff and things

2393
01:32:42,290 --> 01:32:40,320
like that and you you guys used to be

2394
01:32:43,910 --> 01:32:42,300
chummy and I kind of wanted to ask you

2395
01:32:45,709 --> 01:32:43,920
know what happened between you and Tom

2396
01:32:48,350 --> 01:32:45,719
why did you drift apart

2397
01:32:50,390 --> 01:32:48,360
what we did and he got intercepted by

2398
01:32:52,910 --> 01:32:50,400
some folks who had sort of brainwashed

2399
01:32:54,530 --> 01:32:52,920
him of the alien threat narratives uh

2400
01:32:57,649 --> 01:32:54,540
General mccaskill at Wright-Patterson

2401
01:32:59,629 --> 01:32:57,659
and other people and uh he got led by

2402
01:33:02,450 --> 01:32:59,639
his nose down that Primrose path and

2403
01:33:06,229 --> 01:33:02,460
then of course he had all kinds of of

2404
01:33:09,410 --> 01:33:06,239
dark players like Elizondo and uh Simi

2405
01:33:11,390 --> 01:33:09,420
band Jim Simi band who's CIA and other

2406
01:33:13,310 --> 01:33:11,400
people kind of circle around him and I

2407
01:33:15,770 --> 01:33:13,320
think he just got used and abused and

2408
01:33:19,010 --> 01:33:15,780
then dumped which I had predicted would

2409
01:33:20,510 --> 01:33:19,020
happen it was unfortunate uh but the

2410
01:33:22,850 --> 01:33:20,520
problem with having a little bit of

2411
01:33:24,910 --> 01:33:22,860
knowledge in this area it's very easy to

2412
01:33:26,530 --> 01:33:24,920
get manipulated by these sort of

2413
01:33:29,390 --> 01:33:26,540
professional

2414
01:33:32,750 --> 01:33:29,400
counterintelligence operatives so when

2415
01:33:35,330 --> 01:33:32,760
my what I saw happen is that Tom kind of

2416
01:33:37,430 --> 01:33:35,340
got intercepted because they saw him as

2417
01:33:40,729 --> 01:33:37,440
someone who could be a front man to open

2418
01:33:43,490 --> 01:33:40,739
up this with a certain narrative

2419
01:33:45,709 --> 01:33:43,500
to a very specific demographic you know

2420
01:33:48,590 --> 01:33:45,719
younger people and I don't know

2421
01:33:50,270 --> 01:33:48,600
um with with this sort of these are a

2422
01:33:51,770 --> 01:33:50,280
threat to the National Security and oh

2423
01:33:53,890 --> 01:33:51,780
by the way we don't know what they are

2424
01:33:56,270 --> 01:33:53,900
but of course we do know what they are

2425
01:33:58,250 --> 01:33:56,280
we put out a film last year called The

2426
01:33:59,930 --> 01:33:58,260
Cosmic hoax that documents how all this

2427
01:34:02,870 --> 01:33:59,940
was done

2428
01:34:05,030 --> 01:34:02,880
um but I think that in his case I I

2429
01:34:06,470 --> 01:34:05,040
actually don't it was quite some years I

2430
01:34:08,570 --> 01:34:06,480
mean he's had come out and stayed at my

2431
01:34:09,890 --> 01:34:08,580
house out here in Virginia in the

2432
01:34:11,930 --> 01:34:09,900
mountains at near University of Virginia

2433
01:34:13,490 --> 01:34:11,940
and I've been at his place and we did

2434
01:34:16,129 --> 01:34:13,500
some things but that was

2435
01:34:17,689 --> 01:34:16,139
I'm trying to think early 2000s or so

2436
01:34:19,669 --> 01:34:17,699
what have you

2437
01:34:21,770 --> 01:34:19,679
um so I just think that what happened

2438
01:34:24,470 --> 01:34:21,780
and and he mentioned some of this to me

2439
01:34:26,450 --> 01:34:24,480
when we were out there he had a he was a

2440
01:34:29,090 --> 01:34:26,460
girlfriend or

2441
01:34:31,490 --> 01:34:29,100
at the time whose uncle was involved in

2442
01:34:34,030 --> 01:34:31,500
these projects and I think he started

2443
01:34:37,370 --> 01:34:34,040
getting targeted to get pulled away from

2444
01:34:40,189 --> 01:34:37,380
you know actually staying on an accurate

2445
01:34:42,290 --> 01:34:40,199
path and he got intercepted by

2446
01:34:44,990 --> 01:34:42,300
counterintelligence people who are very

2447
01:34:47,689 --> 01:34:45,000
good at doing that because that that's

2448
01:34:49,490 --> 01:34:47,699
one of the real problems is that if they

2449
01:34:50,689 --> 01:34:49,500
look like you could be an asset to be of

2450
01:34:52,970 --> 01:34:50,699
some value

2451
01:34:54,169 --> 01:34:52,980
then there's going to be an attempt to

2452
01:34:57,590 --> 01:34:54,179
pull you over

2453
01:35:00,830 --> 01:34:57,600
uh and and feed you false information

2454
01:35:02,750 --> 01:35:00,840
but also false narratives but he was

2455
01:35:05,390 --> 01:35:02,760
predisposed to that anyway the whole

2456
01:35:07,729 --> 01:35:05,400
Alien Invasion thing which I always find

2457
01:35:09,470 --> 01:35:07,739
laughable any scientists you know oh yes

2458
01:35:12,290 --> 01:35:09,480
you're coming from another star system

2459
01:35:13,610 --> 01:35:12,300
with Technologies 100 000 years past

2460
01:35:18,229 --> 01:35:13,620
what we have

2461
01:35:20,629 --> 01:35:18,239
and they they're invading us how where

2462
01:35:22,310 --> 01:35:20,639
the whole thing is ludicrous

2463
01:35:24,470 --> 01:35:22,320
um but it's of course how you would

2464
01:35:27,110 --> 01:35:24,480
build the future of the military and

2465
01:35:29,390 --> 01:35:27,120
Industrial and financial complex around

2466
01:35:31,610 --> 01:35:29,400
another enemy because I think that's

2467
01:35:33,890 --> 01:35:31,620
exactly what Verner Von Brown shared

2468
01:35:36,590 --> 01:35:33,900
with Carol rosin on his deathbed this

2469
01:35:38,390 --> 01:35:36,600
has been a long-term defense plan to

2470
01:35:40,550 --> 01:35:38,400
sort of present a threat from out there

2471
01:35:41,870 --> 01:35:40,560
where the world can get United but

2472
01:35:44,510 --> 01:35:41,880
instead of in peace it's going to get

2473
01:35:47,090 --> 01:35:44,520
united through another Boogeyman we all

2474
01:35:49,550 --> 01:35:47,100
need to fight because ultimately the

2475
01:35:52,370 --> 01:35:49,560
public is controlled through fear and

2476
01:35:54,890 --> 01:35:52,380
demagoguery and and this is the ultimate

2477
01:35:57,470 --> 01:35:54,900
demagoguery and fear in my opinion just

2478
01:35:59,149 --> 01:35:57,480
for the record I apologize if my

2479
01:36:01,490 --> 01:35:59,159
attitude is dismissive I don't mean that

2480
01:36:03,350 --> 01:36:01,500
and when I ask for evidence or for a

2481
01:36:05,330 --> 01:36:03,360
paper I do that with everyone including

2482
01:36:07,090 --> 01:36:05,340
aviloby said that so-and-so came from

2483
01:36:10,790 --> 01:36:07,100
outside

2484
01:36:12,229 --> 01:36:10,800
I didn't bring a 500 000 page archive in

2485
01:36:13,490 --> 01:36:12,239
here to hold up every time you ask about

2486
01:36:16,370 --> 01:36:13,500
something but I've given people the

2487
01:36:19,070 --> 01:36:16,380
resources go and find it

2488
01:36:21,129 --> 01:36:19,080
um you know now eventually what we want

2489
01:36:23,810 --> 01:36:21,139
to do with this is a PDF searchable

2490
01:36:26,270 --> 01:36:23,820
archive where all this will be you know

2491
01:36:28,490 --> 01:36:26,280
you put in boom and it comes up that'd

2492
01:36:30,410 --> 01:36:28,500
be great yeah yeah so you guys since you

2493
01:36:34,070 --> 01:36:30,420
guys are rich podcasters can help fund

2494
01:36:36,050 --> 01:36:34,080
that I wish I'm just gonna because we're

2495
01:36:38,629 --> 01:36:36,060
talking about you know 500 000 to a

2496
01:36:41,689 --> 01:36:38,639
million dollars to create that uh this

2497
01:36:43,490 --> 01:36:41,699
one's from uh Abdul Aziz uh he says

2498
01:36:44,930 --> 01:36:43,500
thank you so much Dr Maria God bless you

2499
01:36:47,510 --> 01:36:44,940
and keep on doing what you're doing it's

2500
01:36:49,310 --> 01:36:47,520
very important he asks what is your

2501
01:36:51,229 --> 01:36:49,320
answer to the people who accuse you of

2502
01:36:53,030 --> 01:36:51,239
doing things like vacancy five events

2503
01:36:54,950 --> 01:36:53,040
with flares and who complain about

2504
01:36:56,810 --> 01:36:54,960
charging a lot of money for your ce5

2505
01:37:00,830 --> 01:36:56,820
events

2506
01:37:03,470 --> 01:37:00,840
well actually anyone can do ce5 with an

2507
01:37:06,890 --> 01:37:03,480
app that took 20 years to develop that's

2508
01:37:09,110 --> 01:37:06,900
on all the stores so it's like nine

2509
01:37:11,510 --> 01:37:09,120
dollars or something so most of which

2510
01:37:14,810 --> 01:37:11,520
goes to the app developers and and the

2511
01:37:17,030 --> 01:37:14,820
Apple but so you don't have to come with

2512
01:37:19,310 --> 01:37:17,040
need anything you do it yourself

2513
01:37:21,350 --> 01:37:19,320
um so that's just a ridiculous moreover

2514
01:37:23,270 --> 01:37:21,360
on the YouTube channel all that

2515
01:37:24,189 --> 01:37:23,280
information is there now the events we

2516
01:37:27,350 --> 01:37:24,199
do

2517
01:37:28,370 --> 01:37:27,360
uh fund the disclosure project and what

2518
01:37:31,010 --> 01:37:28,380
we're doing

2519
01:37:33,050 --> 01:37:31,020
so I live on ninety thousand dollars a

2520
01:37:34,430 --> 01:37:33,060
year that's a big pay cut from six

2521
01:37:36,709 --> 01:37:34,440
hundred thousand a year as the chairman

2522
01:37:38,510 --> 01:37:36,719
of emergency medicine how much of a pay

2523
01:37:41,270 --> 01:37:38,520
cut asks this guy how much should pay

2524
01:37:43,610 --> 01:37:41,280
cook he's taken when other people take a

2525
01:37:46,370 --> 01:37:43,620
eighty percent pay cut to do this work

2526
01:37:50,030 --> 01:37:46,380
they can then talk to me

2527
01:37:51,950 --> 01:37:50,040
um so otherwise just say thanks now the

2528
01:37:53,149 --> 01:37:51,960
reality is if you're going to run an

2529
01:37:56,209 --> 01:37:53,159
organization

2530
01:37:58,970 --> 01:37:56,219
that has expenses you're going to have

2531
01:38:01,189 --> 01:37:58,980
to charge for things you know and so

2532
01:38:04,310 --> 01:38:01,199
this is one of these really stupid

2533
01:38:05,810 --> 01:38:04,320
questions in my opinion it's like I have

2534
01:38:08,149 --> 01:38:05,820
been advised that everything I'm doing

2535
01:38:10,370 --> 01:38:08,159
should be ten times

2536
01:38:12,410 --> 01:38:10,380
more costly than they are there's almost

2537
01:38:14,570 --> 01:38:12,420
90 plus percent of everything we've ever

2538
01:38:17,090 --> 01:38:14,580
done has been done for free and is out

2539
01:38:20,510 --> 01:38:17,100
there in the public for free

2540
01:38:22,370 --> 01:38:20,520
um and that is not the way to build you

2541
01:38:23,990 --> 01:38:22,380
know financially an organization that's

2542
01:38:25,970 --> 01:38:24,000
taken on what we are this is why we

2543
01:38:30,470 --> 01:38:25,980
don't have any paid staff

2544
01:38:33,110 --> 01:38:30,480
or an office so in reality uh you know

2545
01:38:36,169 --> 01:38:33,120
we just did a workshop well it cost 150

2546
01:38:37,310 --> 01:38:36,179
000 with today's inflation to engage the

2547
01:38:39,410 --> 01:38:37,320
venue

2548
01:38:43,129 --> 01:38:39,420
and they made us buy all kinds of food

2549
01:38:45,110 --> 01:38:43,139
for the attendees and it was 150 000 so

2550
01:38:48,110 --> 01:38:45,120
I don't have someone saying we will

2551
01:38:50,689 --> 01:38:48,120
underwrite the cost of everything so you

2552
01:38:53,209 --> 01:38:50,699
can do these things for people for free

2553
01:38:54,649 --> 01:38:53,219
now maybe the person asking that

2554
01:38:56,209 --> 01:38:54,659
question is a billionaire who could

2555
01:38:59,209 --> 01:38:56,219
underwrite the expenses for all these

2556
01:39:01,550 --> 01:38:59,219
events and if he is great you haven't

2557
01:39:04,370 --> 01:39:01,560
give him a call otherwise in the real

2558
01:39:06,410 --> 01:39:04,380
world let's talk real world in the real

2559
01:39:09,350 --> 01:39:06,420
world you're not going to be able to put

2560
01:39:11,030 --> 01:39:09,360
on uh have an organization uh and do

2561
01:39:13,610 --> 01:39:11,040
something like the disclosure project or

2562
01:39:15,770 --> 01:39:13,620
if I have to bring uh some top secret

2563
01:39:18,530 --> 01:39:15,780
military whistleblowers in and it's at

2564
01:39:20,990 --> 01:39:18,540
my expense I do not ask the government

2565
01:39:23,270 --> 01:39:21,000
to pick up this expense where is that

2566
01:39:26,050 --> 01:39:23,280
going to come from my retirement savings

2567
01:39:28,310 --> 01:39:26,060
so yes there are fees

2568
01:39:31,669 --> 01:39:28,320
where the money can come from

2569
01:39:33,830 --> 01:39:31,679
oh really good yeah so again

2570
01:39:36,169 --> 01:39:33,840
um please

2571
01:39:39,050 --> 01:39:36,179
if you have a way of getting free energy

2572
01:39:40,970 --> 01:39:39,060
or you know someone who who does you can

2573
01:39:43,810 --> 01:39:40,980
set up a Bitcoin Farm because one of the

2574
01:39:46,610 --> 01:39:43,820
most costly aspects is the electricity

2575
01:39:48,590 --> 01:39:46,620
and then you can fund

2576
01:39:50,149 --> 01:39:48,600
as much research as you like or at least

2577
01:39:51,530 --> 01:39:50,159
a significant portion of it so is there

2578
01:39:53,930 --> 01:39:51,540
are you looking into that is there a

2579
01:39:55,669 --> 01:39:53,940
reason that I don't have I don't have

2580
01:39:58,070 --> 01:39:55,679
one of those devices you didn't hear me

2581
01:39:59,810 --> 01:39:58,080
let me repeat it again we have

2582
01:40:02,930 --> 01:39:59,820
investigated and seen enough that

2583
01:40:05,390 --> 01:40:02,940
they're all entrapped in a team of

2584
01:40:07,910 --> 01:40:05,400
people the inventor and his team that

2585
01:40:09,470 --> 01:40:07,920
are wanting to keep it secret

2586
01:40:11,930 --> 01:40:09,480
um now one of them that we recently

2587
01:40:13,669 --> 01:40:11,940
visited in fact was running Bitcoin

2588
01:40:15,649 --> 01:40:13,679
mining machines

2589
01:40:18,830 --> 01:40:15,659
man that's how that in fact there was

2590
01:40:21,050 --> 01:40:18,840
one little shed that it was in and

2591
01:40:25,310 --> 01:40:21,060
that's what he was using it for

2592
01:40:27,470 --> 01:40:25,320
he was mining Bitcoin so yeah so

2593
01:40:29,810 --> 01:40:27,480
certainly that could be done

2594
01:40:32,570 --> 01:40:29,820
um but I don't actually own or possess

2595
01:40:34,850 --> 01:40:32,580
one of those systems you know

2596
01:40:37,310 --> 01:40:34,860
I mean if we did that'd be the least

2597
01:40:39,770 --> 01:40:37,320
important way of generating Revenue I

2598
01:40:42,290 --> 01:40:39,780
think that there's actually uh billions

2599
01:40:43,729 --> 01:40:42,300
of dollars available uh from people who

2600
01:40:45,410 --> 01:40:43,739
do want to have an environmental

2601
01:40:49,490 --> 01:40:45,420
solution that would flow into any

2602
01:40:51,830 --> 01:40:49,500
operation that could widely approve but

2603
01:40:54,649 --> 01:40:51,840
here's the other problem if you're not

2604
01:40:56,689 --> 01:40:54,659
willing to open it up to Scientific

2605
01:40:57,950 --> 01:40:56,699
scrutiny it isn't going to be taken

2606
01:41:00,649 --> 01:40:57,960
seriously

2607
01:41:02,330 --> 01:41:00,659
you know all right so that's why like

2608
01:41:04,850 --> 01:41:02,340
with the disclosure project I say don't

2609
01:41:07,010 --> 01:41:04,860
take my word for it here are these 5 000

2610
01:41:09,709 --> 01:41:07,020
documents here are these dozens of

2611
01:41:12,950 --> 01:41:09,719
military Witnesses here's this now if

2612
01:41:15,890 --> 01:41:12,960
you have a device you can't make a claim

2613
01:41:18,410 --> 01:41:15,900
uh that's this Grand claim that it's

2614
01:41:20,810 --> 01:41:18,420
doing this and there's nobody who's a

2615
01:41:23,689 --> 01:41:20,820
third party entity that's credible who

2616
01:41:25,070 --> 01:41:23,699
has reproduced it or checked it so a lot

2617
01:41:28,010 --> 01:41:25,080
of times they want to go straight from

2618
01:41:30,229 --> 01:41:28,020
the invention to trying to monetize it

2619
01:41:33,590 --> 01:41:30,239
and there are all these other steps and

2620
01:41:35,330 --> 01:41:33,600
the the big one is the opens disclosure

2621
01:41:37,550 --> 01:41:35,340
of it open source but also the

2622
01:41:40,010 --> 01:41:37,560
scientific Recreation of it by

2623
01:41:42,590 --> 01:41:40,020
independent people who don't have an ax

2624
01:41:44,810 --> 01:41:42,600
to grind aren't trying to raise money so

2625
01:41:47,270 --> 01:41:44,820
that is something that always should

2626
01:41:49,609 --> 01:41:47,280
happen in science but that has not

2627
01:41:50,930 --> 01:41:49,619
happened properly with this because a

2628
01:41:53,030 --> 01:41:50,940
friend of mine who's a venture capital

2629
01:41:55,370 --> 01:41:53,040
guy he said there's a direct

2630
01:41:56,570 --> 01:41:55,380
relationship between how important the

2631
01:42:00,050 --> 01:41:56,580
invention is

2632
01:42:01,550 --> 01:42:00,060
and how crazy the inventors get so when

2633
01:42:04,669 --> 01:42:01,560
you when you've hit something like the

2634
01:42:06,590 --> 01:42:04,679
gold the brass the Golden Ring here and

2635
01:42:07,669 --> 01:42:06,600
that it becomes they become more and

2636
01:42:08,450 --> 01:42:07,679
more erect because they know what they

2637
01:42:10,189 --> 01:42:08,460
have

2638
01:42:13,070 --> 01:42:10,199
and they know what its value should be

2639
01:42:16,129 --> 01:42:13,080
and so it that sort of bloodlust

2640
01:42:17,810 --> 01:42:16,139
overwhelms The Logical mind uh and this

2641
01:42:19,250 --> 01:42:17,820
and the scientific mind and they feel

2642
01:42:21,530 --> 01:42:19,260
like they're against everyone or to them

2643
01:42:22,790 --> 01:42:21,540
against the world in reality the whole

2644
01:42:24,830 --> 01:42:22,800
world would be with them one of the

2645
01:42:27,290 --> 01:42:24,840
things I point out there are a

2646
01:42:29,270 --> 01:42:27,300
relatively tiny number of people on the

2647
01:42:31,729 --> 01:42:29,280
planet that benefit from the status quo

2648
01:42:35,570 --> 01:42:31,739
of how the planet is running

2649
01:42:38,090 --> 01:42:35,580
but there's 99.99 or more of the

2650
01:42:40,669 --> 01:42:38,100
population that would be behind you if

2651
01:42:42,290 --> 01:42:40,679
you would open it up and disclose it and

2652
01:42:44,450 --> 01:42:42,300
then money ain't going to be an issue

2653
01:42:47,570 --> 01:42:44,460
because if it's disclosed open source

2654
01:42:49,070 --> 01:42:47,580
and it's proven by independent I mean

2655
01:42:51,050 --> 01:42:49,080
look if someone makes a claim like that

2656
01:42:52,250 --> 01:42:51,060
they put all the information out there

2657
01:42:55,669 --> 01:42:52,260
will probably be a hundred different

2658
01:42:57,550 --> 01:42:55,679
labs and people who will verify it I

2659
01:42:59,689 --> 01:42:57,560
mean if it's put out Faithfully

2660
01:43:02,450 --> 01:42:59,699
unfortunately a lot of these people put

2661
01:43:04,609 --> 01:43:02,460
out everything but the secret sauce

2662
01:43:06,950 --> 01:43:04,619
so I know I know over a couple patents

2663
01:43:09,109 --> 01:43:06,960
out there like Stan Meyer did this where

2664
01:43:12,709 --> 01:43:09,119
he put everything but and he actually

2665
01:43:17,290 --> 01:43:12,719
falsified the voltages and the hurts and

2666
01:43:20,330 --> 01:43:17,300
whatnot of his uh uh electrical device

2667
01:43:22,970 --> 01:43:20,340
and that of course caused people to try

2668
01:43:25,129 --> 01:43:22,980
to reproduce and it wouldn't work uh so

2669
01:43:27,550 --> 01:43:25,139
I think that these sort of little legal

2670
01:43:30,950 --> 01:43:27,560
and financial tricks always end up being

2671
01:43:32,750 --> 01:43:30,960
counterproductive frankly to to what

2672
01:43:35,109 --> 01:43:32,760
their objective is

2673
01:43:37,550 --> 01:43:35,119
um anything that keeps it in a small

2674
01:43:39,830 --> 01:43:37,560
secretive group

2675
01:43:43,149 --> 01:43:39,840
um trying to monetize it you know knew

2676
01:43:45,350 --> 01:43:43,159
my analysis here's to my analogy

2677
01:43:48,530 --> 01:43:45,360
DARPA created what's something called

2678
01:43:51,709 --> 01:43:48,540
the internet not Al Gore but DARPA did

2679
01:43:54,109 --> 01:43:51,719
now that was done by government it

2680
01:43:56,330 --> 01:43:54,119
sorted let's call it open source

2681
01:43:59,930 --> 01:43:56,340
internet right get on the internet

2682
01:44:01,729 --> 01:43:59,940
the worldwide web we need the equivalent

2683
01:44:02,990 --> 01:44:01,739
of that but it ain't going to come from

2684
01:44:05,030 --> 01:44:03,000
the government it's not going to come

2685
01:44:08,169 --> 01:44:05,040
from an academic Institution

2686
01:44:10,970 --> 01:44:08,179
we need the equivalent of a an organ

2687
01:44:12,530 --> 01:44:10,980
organization that's going to do this

2688
01:44:14,629 --> 01:44:12,540
research and development on these

2689
01:44:17,090 --> 01:44:14,639
Technologies in an open source way

2690
01:44:20,270 --> 01:44:17,100
that's shared openly and the technology

2691
01:44:23,450 --> 01:44:20,280
the platform the initial one I call this

2692
01:44:25,490 --> 01:44:23,460
phase one is widely available now that

2693
01:44:27,950 --> 01:44:25,500
would not prevent even if it's a private

2694
01:44:32,870 --> 01:44:27,960
Corporation from after that initial

2695
01:44:36,709 --> 01:44:32,880
launch doing very profound refinement

2696
01:44:38,350 --> 01:44:36,719
let's call it generation 2.0 or 3.0 or

2697
01:44:41,709 --> 01:44:38,360
10.0 of the device

2698
01:44:45,169 --> 01:44:41,719
because that's how science goes forward

2699
01:44:47,090 --> 01:44:45,179
you know eventually uh most of these

2700
01:44:49,609 --> 01:44:47,100
early devices were rotary and

2701
01:44:51,350 --> 01:44:49,619
electrostatic rotary all four of the

2702
01:44:52,310 --> 01:44:51,360
ones that I'm talking about are solid

2703
01:44:56,330 --> 01:44:52,320
state

2704
01:44:59,030 --> 01:44:56,340
which is beautiful

2705
01:45:00,830 --> 01:44:59,040
yeah um some some guys in the audience

2706
01:45:02,930 --> 01:45:00,840
just wanted us to to just give it like a

2707
01:45:04,310 --> 01:45:02,940
high yes or no uh the question I

2708
01:45:06,410 --> 01:45:04,320
previously asked uh where someone

2709
01:45:08,149 --> 01:45:06,420
mentioned about dropping flares I just

2710
01:45:09,850 --> 01:45:08,159
want to check so you refute that claim

2711
01:45:11,810 --> 01:45:09,860
like no place

2712
01:45:12,830 --> 01:45:11,820
we've never done something like that

2713
01:45:15,229 --> 01:45:12,840
ever

2714
01:45:16,250 --> 01:45:15,239
now I do think we've had a few events

2715
01:45:19,330 --> 01:45:16,260
where

2716
01:45:22,250 --> 01:45:19,340
people have tried to trick us

2717
01:45:22,930 --> 01:45:22,260
and that's different uh and what do you

2718
01:45:25,910 --> 01:45:22,940
mean

2719
01:45:28,010 --> 01:45:25,920
where they've tried to Stage things

2720
01:45:30,310 --> 01:45:28,020
so that we'd be fooled as in

2721
01:45:33,290 --> 01:45:30,320
participants that came to your events

2722
01:45:36,290 --> 01:45:33,300
it's no outside yeah okay

2723
01:45:39,169 --> 01:45:36,300
yeah okay and we've gotten pretty good

2724
01:45:41,950 --> 01:45:39,179
at finding who those when that happens

2725
01:45:44,450 --> 01:45:41,960
but would you like to name and Shane

2726
01:45:46,910 --> 01:45:44,460
people like who like the government or

2727
01:45:48,770 --> 01:45:46,920
or the participants or what well again

2728
01:45:50,689 --> 01:45:48,780
the government which government

2729
01:45:52,370 --> 01:45:50,699
no the participants who come never would

2730
01:45:54,590 --> 01:45:52,380
do something like that

2731
01:45:56,570 --> 01:45:54,600
um but you know what I'm really

2732
01:45:59,450 --> 01:45:56,580
encouraging people is to people to get

2733
01:46:01,430 --> 01:45:59,460
get the app at ce5 contact app and do it

2734
01:46:04,430 --> 01:46:01,440
themselves you know I got a great report

2735
01:46:06,950 --> 01:46:04,440
recently from uh truck driver in Croatia

2736
01:46:10,970 --> 01:46:06,960
who was driving along and doing it took

2737
01:46:14,030 --> 01:46:10,980
a break of and was doing the ce5 uh

2738
01:46:16,550 --> 01:46:14,040
techniques and this uh ET crap

2739
01:46:18,770 --> 01:46:16,560
materialized to the left of his cab and

2740
01:46:20,510 --> 01:46:18,780
floated right over the cab and vanished

2741
01:46:21,890 --> 01:46:20,520
and we're getting reports like this from

2742
01:46:23,990 --> 01:46:21,900
people all the world so I tell people

2743
01:46:26,209 --> 01:46:24,000
you don't have to be with me I think if

2744
01:46:27,590 --> 01:46:26,219
anything due to the fact that there's a

2745
01:46:29,450 --> 01:46:27,600
lot of reconnaissance around what I'm

2746
01:46:31,070 --> 01:46:29,460
doing you're probably better off if I'm

2747
01:46:32,930 --> 01:46:31,080
not there

2748
01:46:35,149 --> 01:46:32,940
um I do like teaching people the

2749
01:46:38,030 --> 01:46:35,159
concepts and the techniques

2750
01:46:40,189 --> 01:46:38,040
of remote viewing and the meditative

2751
01:46:42,830 --> 01:46:40,199
techniques and what the cosmology is

2752
01:46:44,570 --> 01:46:42,840
that we're engaging uh and to me that's

2753
01:46:47,450 --> 01:46:44,580
like we're a big part of this needs to

2754
01:46:49,790 --> 01:46:47,460
come in is a whole revisiting of the

2755
01:46:52,490 --> 01:46:49,800
cosmology that it you know takes it out

2756
01:46:53,930 --> 01:46:52,500
of straight-line Universe

2757
01:46:55,370 --> 01:46:53,940
um because we're not dealing with the

2758
01:46:57,530 --> 01:46:55,380
straight-line universe we're dealing

2759
01:47:00,649 --> 01:46:57,540
with a Quantum holographic conscious

2760
01:47:02,570 --> 01:47:00,659
universe and uh that's a that's a very

2761
01:47:04,310 --> 01:47:02,580
different kettle of fish when you start

2762
01:47:06,470 --> 01:47:04,320
dealing with civilizations who certainly

2763
01:47:08,990 --> 01:47:06,480
understand that and their Technologies

2764
01:47:11,209 --> 01:47:09,000
are utilizing aspects of them

2765
01:47:12,470 --> 01:47:11,219
so um to me that's really exciting I

2766
01:47:14,990 --> 01:47:12,480
like it's still the thing that I love

2767
01:47:16,669 --> 01:47:15,000
doing the most actually but

2768
01:47:18,890 --> 01:47:16,679
um but you know there's a limit to how

2769
01:47:21,290 --> 01:47:18,900
much time I can take to do those so I'm

2770
01:47:23,030 --> 01:47:21,300
encouraging other people to do it and

2771
01:47:24,410 --> 01:47:23,040
you know it's not difficult to do

2772
01:47:27,530 --> 01:47:24,420
actually

2773
01:47:30,350 --> 01:47:27,540
is the is the app 100 required or are

2774
01:47:32,090 --> 01:47:30,360
there other methods that people can use

2775
01:47:33,649 --> 01:47:32,100
well if you don't if you know what

2776
01:47:35,689 --> 01:47:33,659
you're doing you don't need the app if

2777
01:47:37,609 --> 01:47:35,699
you are trying to learn about it get the

2778
01:47:38,930 --> 01:47:37,619
app so it's like a shower essentially

2779
01:47:40,430 --> 01:47:38,940
like a bit of guidance

2780
01:47:42,109 --> 01:47:40,440
oh yeah it's a whole it's like a

2781
01:47:43,129 --> 01:47:42,119
meditation app you like just like some

2782
01:47:44,990 --> 01:47:43,139
people don't know how to meditate

2783
01:47:46,250 --> 01:47:45,000
they're like just get an app and no it's

2784
01:47:47,990 --> 01:47:46,260
more than that it's like how do you set

2785
01:47:49,910 --> 01:47:48,000
up the group what equipment do you have

2786
01:47:52,729 --> 01:47:49,920
what you know how do you different

2787
01:47:54,649 --> 01:47:52,739
satellites from other objects no it's a

2788
01:47:57,050 --> 01:47:54,659
whole training program

2789
01:47:59,510 --> 01:47:57,060
oh yeah okay so I personally would love

2790
01:48:01,609 --> 01:47:59,520
to speak to Bob Lazar I request him

2791
01:48:03,590 --> 01:48:01,619
frequently well we'll see what happens

2792
01:48:04,910 --> 01:48:03,600
but anyway what are your and I'm always

2793
01:48:07,189 --> 01:48:04,920
getting people's different opinions on

2794
01:48:09,169 --> 01:48:07,199
on Bible talks people seem he's a

2795
01:48:10,669 --> 01:48:09,179
divisive figure so do you happen to have

2796
01:48:13,270 --> 01:48:10,679
any stories about bubbles are anything

2797
01:48:15,830 --> 01:48:13,280
that you've heard any opinions on him

2798
01:48:17,330 --> 01:48:15,840
well here's something that is a one

2799
01:48:19,850 --> 01:48:17,340
since I'm up the street from the white

2800
01:48:22,310 --> 01:48:19,860
house right now at my place in

2801
01:48:25,310 --> 01:48:22,320
Washington uh Eleanor Roosevelt said

2802
01:48:28,669 --> 01:48:25,320
small minds talk about people

2803
01:48:30,950 --> 01:48:28,679
mediocre Minds talk about events great

2804
01:48:32,450 --> 01:48:30,960
minds talk about ideas

2805
01:48:36,530 --> 01:48:32,460
so

2806
01:48:39,770 --> 01:48:36,540
you know the gossip Mill of talking

2807
01:48:43,070 --> 01:48:39,780
about personalities it's not important

2808
01:48:47,090 --> 01:48:43,080
what I will say is there are assets

2809
01:48:49,070 --> 01:48:47,100
there where he was located I wasn't

2810
01:48:51,410 --> 01:48:49,080
there with him nor have I gotten anyone

2811
01:48:54,169 --> 01:48:51,420
that corroborate his exact story

2812
01:48:56,169 --> 01:48:54,179
but I have people who have corroborated

2813
01:49:00,169 --> 01:48:56,179
related

2814
01:49:02,510 --> 01:49:00,179
uh facilities and assets that are there

2815
01:49:05,030 --> 01:49:02,520
the ones that are underground are the

2816
01:49:07,490 --> 01:49:05,040
Extraterrestrial Vehicles above ground

2817
01:49:10,430 --> 01:49:07,500
there are places where we are storing or

2818
01:49:13,970 --> 01:49:10,440
building the man-made UFOs

2819
01:49:16,850 --> 01:49:13,980
um and so we certainly know where those

2820
01:49:19,370 --> 01:49:16,860
are and how they're configured and which

2821
01:49:21,050 --> 01:49:19,380
areas out by pahoot Mesa and other other

2822
01:49:23,149 --> 01:49:21,060
locations

2823
01:49:27,530 --> 01:49:23,159
um I have a colonel who's coming forward

2824
01:49:29,629 --> 01:49:27,540
who was an early U2 spy plane pilot but

2825
01:49:32,149 --> 01:49:29,639
who had been assigned to work with the

2826
01:49:34,550 --> 01:49:32,159
Skunk Works lucky Skunk Works and was

2827
01:49:37,970 --> 01:49:34,560
had Ben Rich's cell number and was also

2828
01:49:41,510 --> 01:49:37,980
at the so-called Area 51 facility uh

2829
01:49:44,689 --> 01:49:41,520
observing this so you know it's not

2830
01:49:47,570 --> 01:49:44,699
implausible that he was there

2831
01:49:48,830 --> 01:49:47,580
um but since I wasn't there with him and

2832
01:49:50,270 --> 01:49:48,840
I don't know anyone who was there with

2833
01:49:52,910 --> 01:49:50,280
him I just have to you know take his

2834
01:49:54,410 --> 01:49:52,920
account and put it into the Matrix of I

2835
01:49:56,930 --> 01:49:54,420
call it a mosaic where you're putting

2836
01:50:00,109 --> 01:49:56,940
I'm trying to put together the Mosaic

2837
01:50:03,050 --> 01:50:00,119
from a million data points and 1100

2838
01:50:05,030 --> 01:50:03,060
people incredible people who've been in

2839
01:50:07,189 --> 01:50:05,040
facilities and then what you look for

2840
01:50:08,930 --> 01:50:07,199
are corroboration points of

2841
01:50:10,250 --> 01:50:08,940
corroboration and data points that line

2842
01:50:12,890 --> 01:50:10,260
up

2843
01:50:15,410 --> 01:50:12,900
um so some some of what he's recounted

2844
01:50:16,990 --> 01:50:15,420
would conform with the fact that those

2845
01:50:20,689 --> 01:50:17,000
assets are there

2846
01:50:24,709 --> 01:50:20,699
to the extent that his physics theories

2847
01:50:26,270 --> 01:50:24,719
about how it operated uh I'm not so sure

2848
01:50:31,010 --> 01:50:26,280
if those are accurate only because

2849
01:50:32,930 --> 01:50:31,020
they've never been tested and moreover

2850
01:50:36,109 --> 01:50:32,940
um he was there for such a short period

2851
01:50:37,790 --> 01:50:36,119
of time as a young guy I don't think he

2852
01:50:40,370 --> 01:50:37,800
would have been read into that

2853
01:50:41,629 --> 01:50:40,380
um I I'm not sure if that was just one

2854
01:50:44,270 --> 01:50:41,639
of the things I'm always worried about

2855
01:50:46,609 --> 01:50:44,280
is that they're onboarding you into

2856
01:50:48,530 --> 01:50:46,619
these projects they will give you a

2857
01:50:51,189 --> 01:50:48,540
certain amount of information exposure

2858
01:50:55,970 --> 01:50:51,199
and disinformation

2859
01:50:57,830 --> 01:50:55,980
to deliberately uh it's a testing Pro

2860
01:51:00,169 --> 01:50:57,840
it's a testing process I know what the

2861
01:51:02,689 --> 01:51:00,179
procedures are how do you manage that uh

2862
01:51:03,830 --> 01:51:02,699
Dr Greer with with because there's like

2863
01:51:04,850 --> 01:51:03,840
you say there's a lot of elements that

2864
01:51:07,129 --> 01:51:04,860
are trying to put out misinformation

2865
01:51:10,129 --> 01:51:07,139
disinformation and we each have our kind

2866
01:51:12,050 --> 01:51:10,139
of uh tests for what passes through our

2867
01:51:14,209 --> 01:51:12,060
filter what what's yours

2868
01:51:15,950 --> 01:51:14,219
if I find somebody is providing

2869
01:51:19,609 --> 01:51:15,960
something that is factually inaccurate

2870
01:51:22,030 --> 01:51:19,619
then they are dismissed from the project

2871
01:51:22,490 --> 01:51:22,040
it's a very strict

2872
01:51:23,209 --> 01:51:22,500
[Music]

2873
01:51:25,430 --> 01:51:23,219
um

2874
01:51:26,810 --> 01:51:25,440
you know rule I mean I'm not going to

2875
01:51:29,570 --> 01:51:26,820
name names but when we were doing the

2876
01:51:31,669 --> 01:51:29,580
briefings for members of Congress in 97

2877
01:51:35,149 --> 01:51:31,679
the private briefings that we were doing

2878
01:51:37,310 --> 01:51:35,159
prior to the disclosure project in 01 uh

2879
01:51:39,169 --> 01:51:37,320
there was a guy who came who some of his

2880
01:51:41,990 --> 01:51:39,179
story checked out and then he started

2881
01:51:44,090 --> 01:51:42,000
telling embellished aspects of it and we

2882
01:51:47,689 --> 01:51:44,100
escorted him out of the facility because

2883
01:51:49,129 --> 01:51:47,699
it was completely too risky what you

2884
01:51:51,410 --> 01:51:49,139
find the other thing I have found is

2885
01:51:53,330 --> 01:51:51,420
some people who have seen one little

2886
01:51:56,149 --> 01:51:53,340
piece of something

2887
01:51:59,330 --> 01:51:56,159
they then Google the internet or talk to

2888
01:52:01,490 --> 01:51:59,340
other people and they start embellishing

2889
01:52:02,810 --> 01:52:01,500
um from you know the rubbish that's on

2890
01:52:05,750 --> 01:52:02,820
the internet and believe me on this

2891
01:52:08,450 --> 01:52:05,760
subject is 90 plus percent nonsense so

2892
01:52:10,669 --> 01:52:08,460
uh at least uh and so and in fact

2893
01:52:12,770 --> 01:52:10,679
algorithms push the nonsense and the

2894
01:52:15,350 --> 01:52:12,780
truth gets left behind

2895
01:52:17,090 --> 01:52:15,360
um because salacious gossipy nonsense is

2896
01:52:19,850 --> 01:52:17,100
what gets pushed to the front of all the

2897
01:52:21,830 --> 01:52:19,860
uh internet platforms because it's click

2898
01:52:23,750 --> 01:52:21,840
bait for ad Revenue you know I sell

2899
01:52:27,649 --> 01:52:23,760
Facebook Twitter Reddit all of them work

2900
01:52:29,689 --> 01:52:27,659
that way so uh that is that's a real

2901
01:52:32,149 --> 01:52:29,699
test and that's just a process you have

2902
01:52:33,709 --> 01:52:32,159
to go through now you know like the guys

2903
01:52:37,070 --> 01:52:33,719
that are surfaced I said well give me

2904
01:52:38,930 --> 01:52:37,080
your dd214s and let's check out who you

2905
01:52:41,510 --> 01:52:38,940
were and I have some people who helped

2906
01:52:44,930 --> 01:52:41,520
investigate their background

2907
01:52:46,910 --> 01:52:44,940
um and oh you can do all that and then

2908
01:52:49,850 --> 01:52:46,920
at some point if the person has become

2909
01:52:51,830 --> 01:52:49,860
an Aficionado of the UFO subject after

2910
01:52:53,570 --> 01:52:51,840
they left a command or after they were

2911
01:52:56,810 --> 01:52:53,580
working on something they may start

2912
01:52:59,330 --> 01:52:56,820
dragging into their narrative this you

2913
01:53:01,550 --> 01:52:59,340
know sort of the Cesspool of gospel the

2914
01:53:03,050 --> 01:53:01,560
nonsense and conjecture so I think one

2915
01:53:07,010 --> 01:53:03,060
of the things we have to be very careful

2916
01:53:09,530 --> 01:53:07,020
of is always say what did you see I'm

2917
01:53:12,470 --> 01:53:09,540
very hard-nosed about this what did you

2918
01:53:14,510 --> 01:53:12,480
personally see or know about and learn

2919
01:53:16,850 --> 01:53:14,520
when you were in that facility or when

2920
01:53:18,290 --> 01:53:16,860
you were working on this project I'm not

2921
01:53:19,609 --> 01:53:18,300
interested in your theories of the

2922
01:53:21,709 --> 01:53:19,619
universe no offense and I'm not

2923
01:53:23,990 --> 01:53:21,719
interested in what you've dredged up

2924
01:53:26,330 --> 01:53:24,000
from other people third hand

2925
01:53:28,970 --> 01:53:26,340
so you want us that you have to be very

2926
01:53:30,410 --> 01:53:28,980
disciplined and I because I have a

2927
01:53:34,790 --> 01:53:30,420
responsibility because I'm handing this

2928
01:53:36,530 --> 01:53:34,800
off to key people in DC that it's let's

2929
01:53:38,270 --> 01:53:36,540
just stick to what you know we don't

2930
01:53:40,450 --> 01:53:38,280
need conjecture

2931
01:53:43,490 --> 01:53:40,460
um and it's not your job to do the

2932
01:53:45,709 --> 01:53:43,500
assessment it's our job to do the

2933
01:53:48,050 --> 01:53:45,719
assessment after we have you know

2934
01:53:51,830 --> 01:53:48,060
thousands of data points and evidence

2935
01:53:54,350 --> 01:53:51,840
and information so it's very hard a lot

2936
01:53:57,350 --> 01:53:54,360
of people because they they get a lot of

2937
01:53:59,689 --> 01:53:57,360
attention from

2938
01:54:02,330 --> 01:53:59,699
um something that's an amazing event

2939
01:54:04,430 --> 01:54:02,340
they witness or a place they saw and

2940
01:54:06,310 --> 01:54:04,440
it's very easy for human nature then to

2941
01:54:09,050 --> 01:54:06,320
say well

2942
01:54:11,030 --> 01:54:09,060
now let me add to it this and this and

2943
01:54:13,189 --> 01:54:11,040
this because it's exciting it kind of

2944
01:54:14,930 --> 01:54:13,199
keeps the buzz going

2945
01:54:16,669 --> 01:54:14,940
um and and I think we that's what we

2946
01:54:20,149 --> 01:54:16,679
have to be very careful of in this field

2947
01:54:22,250 --> 01:54:20,159
because it is very Sensational and uh

2948
01:54:24,709 --> 01:54:22,260
it's easy to get on that slippery slope

2949
01:54:27,169 --> 01:54:24,719
where people you know combine and

2950
01:54:28,970 --> 01:54:27,179
co-mingle what they directly knew and

2951
01:54:30,890 --> 01:54:28,980
what the facts are with other

2952
01:54:33,229 --> 01:54:30,900
information that's speculative or

2953
01:54:35,649 --> 01:54:33,239
embellished so I think with all of these

2954
01:54:38,689 --> 01:54:35,659
sort of uh whistleblowers and Witnesses

2955
01:54:41,750 --> 01:54:38,699
it's we have to be prudent careful about

2956
01:54:43,430 --> 01:54:41,760
that of course I try to be

2957
01:54:46,550 --> 01:54:43,440
that's good to know

2958
01:54:48,770 --> 01:54:46,560
um in 1994 Dr Ray Bush and if I'm saying

2959
01:54:51,609 --> 01:54:48,780
that right and Linda Hall heard from two

2960
01:54:53,570 --> 01:54:51,619
men who who showed uh Dr Ray

2961
01:54:55,070 --> 01:54:53,580
identification from the Department of

2962
01:54:56,570 --> 01:54:55,080
Defense they claimed that in certain

2963
01:54:58,790 --> 01:54:56,580
black programs we were communicating

2964
01:55:00,649 --> 01:54:58,800
with non-human entities

2965
01:55:02,689 --> 01:55:00,659
trying to control them and exploiting

2966
01:55:05,090 --> 01:55:02,699
information provided by certain on human

2967
01:55:06,290 --> 01:55:05,100
entities online control weapons but

2968
01:55:08,330 --> 01:55:06,300
these alleged Department of Defense

2969
01:55:09,530 --> 01:55:08,340
sources instead felt that the non-human

2970
01:55:11,870 --> 01:55:09,540
entities were controlling and

2971
01:55:14,330 --> 01:55:11,880
manipulating us and we were a big issue

2972
01:55:16,490 --> 01:55:14,340
for Humanity can you add any of your own

2973
01:55:17,990 --> 01:55:16,500
information to that and if any let us

2974
01:55:19,430 --> 01:55:18,000
know if any technology related to

2975
01:55:21,290 --> 01:55:19,440
Advanced propulsion and flight was

2976
01:55:23,270 --> 01:55:21,300
gleaned from these non-human sources and

2977
01:55:25,550 --> 01:55:23,280
through any black programs and do you

2978
01:55:27,830 --> 01:55:25,560
feel that these non-human entities may

2979
01:55:29,450 --> 01:55:27,840
be manipulating Humanity

2980
01:55:31,550 --> 01:55:29,460
um and that our black Tech is so

2981
01:55:34,010 --> 01:55:31,560
Advanced that we can see things that we

2982
01:55:35,629 --> 01:55:34,020
can't see with our eyes

2983
01:55:37,370 --> 01:55:35,639
well there's a whole bunch of issues all

2984
01:55:39,290 --> 01:55:37,380
at once certainly there are technologies

2985
01:55:41,870 --> 01:55:39,300
that we can see that we don't have to

2986
01:55:44,390 --> 01:55:41,880
have our eyes to see it um the

2987
01:55:47,030 --> 01:55:44,400
microscope for example in the telescope

2988
01:55:51,169 --> 01:55:47,040
but also trans-dimensional systems we

2989
01:55:52,790 --> 01:55:51,179
know that uh my military advisor one of

2990
01:55:55,310 --> 01:55:52,800
them was at the White Oaks Naval

2991
01:55:58,729 --> 01:55:55,320
facility in the 70s and there was a

2992
01:56:00,890 --> 01:55:58,739
machine console that was was able to

2993
01:56:04,149 --> 01:56:00,900
extract what they call the white noise

2994
01:56:07,010 --> 01:56:04,159
of space-time uh anything that happened

2995
01:56:10,490 --> 01:56:07,020
or is happening at that moment at any

2996
01:56:11,990 --> 01:56:10,500
point in space or happen last year or a

2997
01:56:14,870 --> 01:56:12,000
thousand years ago or a million years

2998
01:56:18,169 --> 01:56:14,880
ago and that was almost 50 I think it

2999
01:56:19,729 --> 01:56:18,179
was 74 or 73 something like that so we

3000
01:56:21,490 --> 01:56:19,739
know that those Technologies exist

3001
01:56:25,129 --> 01:56:21,500
whether there are these

3002
01:56:29,330 --> 01:56:25,139
entities that are behind that it's

3003
01:56:31,510 --> 01:56:29,340
titillating and salacious and I have not

3004
01:56:33,470 --> 01:56:31,520
seen evidence of it except to the extent

3005
01:56:36,350 --> 01:56:33,480
that there are definitely

3006
01:56:39,950 --> 01:56:36,360
non-extraterrestrial

3007
01:56:42,470 --> 01:56:39,960
when they say non-human that doesn't

3008
01:56:44,870 --> 01:56:42,480
mean extraterrestrial so this is where

3009
01:56:46,910 --> 01:56:44,880
there's this whole big confusion

3010
01:56:49,669 --> 01:56:46,920
it's like if not everything that goes

3011
01:56:50,930 --> 01:56:49,679
bump in the night is an extraterrestrial

3012
01:56:52,550 --> 01:56:50,940
I mean there's such a thing as

3013
01:56:54,470 --> 01:56:52,560
Poltergeist

3014
01:56:56,270 --> 01:56:54,480
um you know I've seen things in the ER

3015
01:56:58,189 --> 01:56:56,280
that would blow people's minds when

3016
01:56:59,990 --> 01:56:58,199
someone has died suddenly and and

3017
01:57:03,229 --> 01:57:00,000
violently

3018
01:57:04,850 --> 01:57:03,239
um so I I think that it sounds like

3019
01:57:06,649 --> 01:57:04,860
there's a great story there would you

3020
01:57:08,930 --> 01:57:06,659
mind your Liberation a little bit

3021
01:57:11,030 --> 01:57:08,940
oh it was this one of these bizarre

3022
01:57:13,430 --> 01:57:11,040
things where this man had been uh you

3023
01:57:15,470 --> 01:57:13,440
know another stab or shot anyway he came

3024
01:57:18,290 --> 01:57:15,480
in code blue and Flatline we tried to

3025
01:57:20,270 --> 01:57:18,300
save him and we couldn't and he then was

3026
01:57:22,970 --> 01:57:20,280
taken he was in the trauma room one and

3027
01:57:25,669 --> 01:57:22,980
it was taken down to the morgue

3028
01:57:28,070 --> 01:57:25,679
um and about three or four or in the

3029
01:57:31,250 --> 01:57:28,080
morning I'm out in the center of with my

3030
01:57:32,689 --> 01:57:31,260
nurses and all of a sudden that room is

3031
01:57:35,149 --> 01:57:32,699
totally empty

3032
01:57:38,149 --> 01:57:35,159
cabinets fly open IV bags are being

3033
01:57:42,290 --> 01:57:38,159
hurled on the floor uh EKG machine is

3034
01:57:46,490 --> 01:57:42,300
turning on by itself it was clearly and

3035
01:57:48,830 --> 01:57:46,500
this this guy very angry and was on a

3036
01:57:50,209 --> 01:57:48,840
rampage in in that little room and of

3037
01:57:51,890 --> 01:57:50,219
course the nurses and I looked at each

3038
01:57:55,310 --> 01:57:51,900
other and says we're not going to put

3039
01:57:58,250 --> 01:57:55,320
this in the chart but um you know you

3040
01:57:59,750 --> 01:57:58,260
see things like this periodically so one

3041
01:58:02,270 --> 01:57:59,760
of the problems with the whole UFO

3042
01:58:05,030 --> 01:58:02,280
subculture and I think this is this is

3043
01:58:07,189 --> 01:58:05,040
done deliberately in my opinion is this

3044
01:58:09,950 --> 01:58:07,199
conflation of everything that's not

3045
01:58:13,070 --> 01:58:09,960
human it's either human or alien so I

3046
01:58:15,430 --> 01:58:13,080
never use the word alien alien to me are

3047
01:58:18,850 --> 01:58:15,440
all kinds of phenomena

3048
01:58:22,070 --> 01:58:18,860
extraterrestrial may be one of them uh

3049
01:58:24,709 --> 01:58:22,080
non-corporeal entities uh or an entity

3050
01:58:26,930 --> 01:58:24,719
From Another Dimension that isn't

3051
01:58:29,149 --> 01:58:26,940
extraterrestrial meaning and even an

3052
01:58:30,709 --> 01:58:29,159
extraterrestrial biological entity from

3053
01:58:32,689 --> 01:58:30,719
a star system when a physical star

3054
01:58:36,410 --> 01:58:32,699
system and Planet but there are other

3055
01:58:38,450 --> 01:58:36,420
dimensions and so there can be all kinds

3056
01:58:40,550 --> 01:58:38,460
of phenomena that began to be observed

3057
01:58:43,850 --> 01:58:40,560
and under certain conditions very

3058
01:58:47,089 --> 01:58:43,860
physically in this Dimension uh have an

3059
01:58:49,129 --> 01:58:47,099
effect that isn't extraterrestrial and

3060
01:58:51,709 --> 01:58:49,139
so this is why I keep getting back to

3061
01:58:54,290 --> 01:58:51,719
this Central Point that we have to

3062
01:58:56,930 --> 01:58:54,300
develop a new cosmology I wrote a paper

3063
01:58:59,270 --> 01:58:56,940
in the early 90s called ETS in the new

3064
01:59:01,790 --> 01:58:59,280
cosmology where we have to develop this

3065
01:59:03,709 --> 01:59:01,800
sort of a whole phyla like you know your

3066
01:59:05,870 --> 01:59:03,719
biological font you know the groupings

3067
01:59:08,330 --> 01:59:05,880
of families the plants and animals

3068
01:59:11,149 --> 01:59:08,340
dealing with the cosmos because it is

3069
01:59:14,990 --> 01:59:11,159
not just a physical 3D Cosmos there are

3070
01:59:16,970 --> 01:59:15,000
these other dimensional uh aspects and

3071
01:59:21,890 --> 01:59:16,980
beans and intelligences from other

3072
01:59:23,990 --> 01:59:21,900
dimensions but where it gets very tricky

3073
01:59:26,089 --> 01:59:24,000
is that if you are an Interstellar

3074
01:59:28,490 --> 01:59:26,099
civilization you're not getting from

3075
01:59:30,410 --> 01:59:28,500
point A to B at the speed of light you

3076
01:59:33,050 --> 01:59:30,420
go beyond the speed of light there's res

3077
01:59:35,750 --> 01:59:33,060
that resonance and frequency you're

3078
01:59:38,450 --> 01:59:35,760
moving into another dimension and you're

3079
01:59:41,270 --> 01:59:38,460
traversing other dimensions so there are

3080
01:59:43,910 --> 01:59:41,280
there are from just a phenomenological

3081
01:59:46,669 --> 01:59:43,920
point of view what you might observe a

3082
01:59:49,189 --> 01:59:46,679
lot of what's extraterrestrial may look

3083
01:59:51,890 --> 01:59:49,199
very similar to a poltergeist event and

3084
01:59:55,550 --> 01:59:51,900
vice versa and vice going the other way

3085
01:59:58,790 --> 01:59:55,560
so this is where knowledge is power and

3086
02:00:00,890 --> 01:59:58,800
uh you have to have I think a certain

3087
02:00:04,910 --> 02:00:00,900
amount of knowledge about all these

3088
02:00:08,209 --> 02:00:04,920
different distinct phenomena plural to

3089
02:00:11,870 --> 02:00:08,219
understand what part of it is man-made

3090
02:00:13,310 --> 02:00:11,880
which is very important I mean 70 years

3091
02:00:16,310 --> 02:00:13,320
and trillions of dollars in Black

3092
02:00:18,589 --> 02:00:16,320
funding they have the ability to do

3093
02:00:20,390 --> 02:00:18,599
things that would look very much like

3094
02:00:22,129 --> 02:00:20,400
it's alien

3095
02:00:24,290 --> 02:00:22,139
that's what abductions are and

3096
02:00:26,030 --> 02:00:24,300
mutilations are about cattle mutilations

3097
02:00:28,370 --> 02:00:26,040
I'm always interested why are they

3098
02:00:30,109 --> 02:00:28,380
associated with the craft I don't know I

3099
02:00:34,310 --> 02:00:30,119
I don't have a

3100
02:00:36,770 --> 02:00:34,320
like even a hypothesis on that so what

3101
02:00:40,609 --> 02:00:36,780
do you think about cattle mutilations

3102
02:00:42,350 --> 02:00:40,619
well I I do it based on the science that

3103
02:00:43,970 --> 02:00:42,360
Dr alt Schuler

3104
02:00:47,089 --> 02:00:43,980
whose stuff was ripped off by the

3105
02:00:48,709 --> 02:00:47,099
charlatans in the UFO subculture uh he

3106
02:00:50,810 --> 02:00:48,719
did the original snippy the horse Case

3107
02:00:53,089 --> 02:00:50,820
in Colorado and he was a hematologist

3108
02:00:54,530 --> 02:00:53,099
pathologist or a good friend of mine he

3109
02:00:56,149 --> 02:00:54,540
was also by the way the nephew of

3110
02:00:58,430 --> 02:00:56,159
General Jimmy Doolittle

3111
02:01:00,290 --> 02:00:58,440
it went over to investigate Foo Fighters

3112
02:01:03,050 --> 02:01:00,300
for Roosevelt and came back and said sir

3113
02:01:05,330 --> 02:01:03,060
those are interplanetary vehicles but at

3114
02:01:08,149 --> 02:01:05,340
any rate he uh lived in Denver

3115
02:01:10,370 --> 02:01:08,159
and uh he's passed away now he got

3116
02:01:12,410 --> 02:01:10,380
cancer and died but he was one of the

3117
02:01:14,570 --> 02:01:12,420
very early scientists looking into this

3118
02:01:16,609 --> 02:01:14,580
and he concluded it was a highly

3119
02:01:19,070 --> 02:01:16,619
classified human

3120
02:01:21,649 --> 02:01:19,080
uh deceptive false flag deceptive

3121
02:01:24,410 --> 02:01:21,659
indication and warning uh and of course

3122
02:01:26,810 --> 02:01:24,420
we knew that was the case and when

3123
02:01:30,410 --> 02:01:26,820
people see quote-unquote a UFO around

3124
02:01:32,270 --> 02:01:30,420
one of these events well which UFO an

3125
02:01:35,089 --> 02:01:32,280
Interstellar one or one out of the

3126
02:01:37,310 --> 02:01:35,099
Lockheed Skunk Works I think that there

3127
02:01:39,410 --> 02:01:37,320
is this again everyone assumes that

3128
02:01:42,109 --> 02:01:39,420
anything going on there with this kind

3129
02:01:43,729 --> 02:01:42,119
of phenomenon has to be something we

3130
02:01:46,189 --> 02:01:43,739
don't understand that's mysterious it's

3131
02:01:48,410 --> 02:01:46,199
a little bit like The Wizard of Oz being

3132
02:01:50,450 --> 02:01:48,420
behind the curtain pulling all the

3133
02:01:52,370 --> 02:01:50,460
levers scaring the crap out of Dorothy

3134
02:01:55,129 --> 02:01:52,380
and the Scarecrow

3135
02:01:58,070 --> 02:01:55,139
um they have the ability to Stage things

3136
02:02:01,070 --> 02:01:58,080
that look very alien that aren't and as

3137
02:02:04,750 --> 02:02:01,080
you know Jacques delay has a Dr belay

3138
02:02:08,149 --> 02:02:04,760
has a document from the CIA from 1985

3139
02:02:09,250 --> 02:02:08,159
describing the CIA program of quote

3140
02:02:14,450 --> 02:02:09,260
unquote

3141
02:02:16,970 --> 02:02:14,460
staging alien abductions in Brazil and

3142
02:02:19,609 --> 02:02:16,980
Argentina for its psychological warfare

3143
02:02:21,470 --> 02:02:19,619
purpose now you know I have a number of

3144
02:02:23,810 --> 02:02:21,480
men on my team who actually have been

3145
02:02:27,229 --> 02:02:23,820
operationally tactically involved in

3146
02:02:29,330 --> 02:02:27,239
those programs so if you have people

3147
02:02:31,609 --> 02:02:29,340
with the intention to deceive the public

3148
02:02:34,310 --> 02:02:31,619
and particularly the gullible UFO

3149
02:02:36,649 --> 02:02:34,320
Community then what happens is that

3150
02:02:38,810 --> 02:02:36,659
there can easily stage mutilations and

3151
02:02:41,030 --> 02:02:38,820
easily stage abductions and easily stage

3152
02:02:42,950 --> 02:02:41,040
all kinds of things

3153
02:02:46,310 --> 02:02:42,960
um and people are going to not be asking

3154
02:02:48,530 --> 02:02:46,320
the question you know is it real or is

3155
02:02:51,109 --> 02:02:48,540
it staged so the very first thing when I

3156
02:02:53,149 --> 02:02:51,119
hear something uh now I didn't know this

3157
02:02:57,530 --> 02:02:53,159
when I first started the project in 1990

3158
02:02:59,270 --> 02:02:57,540
but as I've gotten methods and sources

3159
02:03:01,550 --> 02:02:59,280
and assets who have been involved with

3160
02:03:04,490 --> 02:03:01,560
this and in this case now there are

3161
02:03:07,550 --> 02:03:04,500
documents that you know this is a big

3162
02:03:09,290 --> 02:03:07,560
problem because if if they can taint how

3163
02:03:12,950 --> 02:03:09,300
people view the subject and what the

3164
02:03:15,589 --> 02:03:12,960
database is uh by including a lot of

3165
02:03:17,990 --> 02:03:15,599
staged events that are human for their

3166
02:03:20,030 --> 02:03:18,000
psychological warfare value you then

3167
02:03:21,109 --> 02:03:20,040
have to go back to all your cases and

3168
02:03:23,330 --> 02:03:21,119
database

3169
02:03:26,149 --> 02:03:23,340
and start over you really have to look

3170
02:03:28,850 --> 02:03:26,159
at everything with a fresh look and then

3171
02:03:30,709 --> 02:03:28,860
you throw in one more confusing element

3172
02:03:33,649 --> 02:03:30,719
and that is this whole interdimensional

3173
02:03:36,830 --> 02:03:33,659
question of entities quote unquote or

3174
02:03:38,149 --> 02:03:36,840
intelligences that are neither human nor

3175
02:03:41,149 --> 02:03:38,159
extraterrestrial

3176
02:03:42,470 --> 02:03:41,159
that could be in the play and so you

3177
02:03:44,810 --> 02:03:42,480
know this people don't like this because

3178
02:03:47,870 --> 02:03:44,820
people like you know simple Hollywood

3179
02:03:49,729 --> 02:03:47,880
movie type narratives but it is complex

3180
02:03:51,950 --> 02:03:49,739
and and I think that I don't think it's

3181
02:03:53,810 --> 02:03:51,960
beyond what people can understand but I

3182
02:03:55,790 --> 02:03:53,820
just think that it's not usually talked

3183
02:03:58,729 --> 02:03:55,800
about you will go to very few

3184
02:04:02,149 --> 02:03:58,739
conferences on this subject where the

3185
02:04:04,149 --> 02:04:02,159
whole question of the cosmology and all

3186
02:04:06,950 --> 02:04:04,159
the different phenomena that could be

3187
02:04:10,070 --> 02:04:06,960
man-made versus extraterrestrial versus

3188
02:04:12,169 --> 02:04:10,080
quote alien I use the word alien really

3189
02:04:14,810 --> 02:04:12,179
to not denote extraterrestrial so much

3190
02:04:16,609 --> 02:04:14,820
as what's being foisted on the public as

3191
02:04:18,350 --> 02:04:16,619
extraterrestrial

3192
02:04:20,930 --> 02:04:18,360
um and I think that's done very

3193
02:04:23,689 --> 02:04:20,940
deliberately because if you can

3194
02:04:25,129 --> 02:04:23,699
misdirect people you know there's a guy

3195
02:04:27,589 --> 02:04:25,139
I worked with years ago who was the

3196
02:04:28,729 --> 02:04:27,599
right hand guy for General Odom who is

3197
02:04:30,109 --> 02:04:28,739
the director of the National Security

3198
02:04:32,510 --> 02:04:30,119
Agency

3199
02:04:34,490 --> 02:04:32,520
and after he left that position he

3200
02:04:36,050 --> 02:04:34,500
worked with me and helped analyze

3201
02:04:36,770 --> 02:04:36,060
documents and stuff

3202
02:04:39,070 --> 02:04:36,780
um

3203
02:04:41,629 --> 02:04:39,080
so he knew what things should look like

3204
02:04:43,250 --> 02:04:41,639
uh it's particularly the documents that

3205
02:04:45,589 --> 02:04:43,260
would come to me that are not officially

3206
02:04:48,950 --> 02:04:45,599
Declassified that are still top secret

3207
02:04:51,649 --> 02:04:48,960
that that we have and so but he told me

3208
02:04:54,890 --> 02:04:51,659
he says yes what we do is go to DDT I

3209
02:04:57,950 --> 02:04:54,900
said oh it's like the the poison you

3210
02:05:00,169 --> 02:04:57,960
know the whatever it was the insecticide

3211
02:05:02,750 --> 02:05:00,179
he says yes but it's not what it stands

3212
02:05:06,109 --> 02:05:02,760
for you set up a decoy you distract

3213
02:05:08,330 --> 02:05:06,119
people and you trash their efforts DDT

3214
02:05:09,709 --> 02:05:08,340
he said we run ddts on people all the

3215
02:05:12,050 --> 02:05:09,719
time

3216
02:05:14,030 --> 02:05:12,060
um and so if you're sort of like an

3217
02:05:17,270 --> 02:05:14,040
actor have you ever had one run on you

3218
02:05:20,209 --> 02:05:17,280
oh yes absolutely

3219
02:05:22,790 --> 02:05:20,219
more than once I mean I

3220
02:05:24,410 --> 02:05:22,800
well you know the the night after I I

3221
02:05:25,850 --> 02:05:24,420
met with um

3222
02:05:28,310 --> 02:05:25,860
uh

3223
02:05:30,050 --> 02:05:28,320
I was meeting with the Crown Prince of

3224
02:05:32,570 --> 02:05:30,060
Liechtenstein about Prince Hans Lotto

3225
02:05:34,189 --> 02:05:32,580
about Liechtenstein and uh of course he

3226
02:05:35,870 --> 02:05:34,199
was trying to convince me of the evil

3227
02:05:37,550 --> 02:05:35,880
alien narrative so that we could have

3228
02:05:40,070 --> 02:05:37,560
World War III that would bring Christ

3229
02:05:41,290 --> 02:05:40,080
back on a flying saucer I mean that was

3230
02:05:44,030 --> 02:05:41,300
this whole end of the world

3231
02:05:46,250 --> 02:05:44,040
eschatological Armageddon sort of

3232
02:05:47,990 --> 02:05:46,260
speaking of World War II I want to ask a

3233
02:05:49,370 --> 02:05:48,000
Ukrainian UAP question so I'm just

3234
02:05:50,270 --> 02:05:49,380
putting that out there let's continue

3235
02:05:52,970 --> 02:05:50,280
please

3236
02:05:56,570 --> 02:05:52,980
but that but so that night when I did

3237
02:05:58,790 --> 02:05:56,580
buy into it this was in July of 1994.

3238
02:06:00,709 --> 02:05:58,800
I was targeted with one of these systems

3239
02:06:03,410 --> 02:06:00,719
and it was one that was trying to abduct

3240
02:06:07,070 --> 02:06:03,420
Me Out of the my hotel room in St Moritz

3241
02:06:09,649 --> 02:06:07,080
Hotel and luckily I I identified it

3242
02:06:13,189 --> 02:06:09,659
right away as uh directional energy

3243
02:06:16,070 --> 02:06:13,199
weapon that was attempting to to do this

3244
02:06:19,370 --> 02:06:16,080
um but you know that with that sort of

3245
02:06:21,410 --> 02:06:19,380
nonsense has been played on people for

3246
02:06:24,589 --> 02:06:21,420
decades remember we took in Havana

3247
02:06:26,209 --> 02:06:24,599
syndrome yes way beyond that I mean the

3248
02:06:28,689 --> 02:06:26,219
Havana syndrome stuff would be the very

3249
02:06:31,669 --> 02:06:28,699
tip of an iceberg uh

3250
02:06:34,910 --> 02:06:31,679
electromagnetic Warfare systems that are

3251
02:06:37,129 --> 02:06:34,920
more trans-dimensional and that are uh

3252
02:06:38,870 --> 02:06:37,139
dealing with more scalar longitudinal

3253
02:06:42,169 --> 02:06:38,880
type

3254
02:06:44,450 --> 02:06:42,179
energy and so-called psychotronic

3255
02:06:45,589 --> 02:06:44,460
radionic but very Advanced versions of

3256
02:06:47,689 --> 02:06:45,599
it

3257
02:06:49,850 --> 02:06:47,699
um and those those are what are used

3258
02:06:53,450 --> 02:06:49,860
often and deployed along with other

3259
02:06:54,550 --> 02:06:53,460
means uh during abduction sequences by

3260
02:06:57,370 --> 02:06:54,560
these human

3261
02:06:59,870 --> 02:06:57,380
uh well criminals I mean you know I mean

3262
02:07:01,250 --> 02:06:59,880
one of the things I'm saying to these

3263
02:07:02,810 --> 02:07:01,260
folks here in Washington I said you have

3264
02:07:04,910 --> 02:07:02,820
to understand you're going to uncover

3265
02:07:06,530 --> 02:07:04,920
the largest recoil in the world

3266
02:07:08,930 --> 02:07:06,540
racketeering influence corrupt

3267
02:07:11,810 --> 02:07:08,940
organization uh and they have

3268
02:07:14,030 --> 02:07:11,820
Technologies and and the means to to

3269
02:07:15,950 --> 02:07:14,040
make a lot of trouble and you have to

3270
02:07:18,350 --> 02:07:15,960
approach this carefully so the whole

3271
02:07:20,570 --> 02:07:18,360
system doesn't get blown to Pieces but

3272
02:07:23,689 --> 02:07:20,580
but they have these abilities and I

3273
02:07:25,550 --> 02:07:23,699
describe them I go from the sort of easy

3274
02:07:27,350 --> 02:07:25,560
to understand anti-gravity device

3275
02:07:28,910 --> 02:07:27,360
floating over the desert that looks like

3276
02:07:31,129 --> 02:07:28,920
an alien ship that came out of

3277
02:07:34,490 --> 02:07:31,139
underground at dugway that's made by

3278
02:07:36,550 --> 02:07:34,500
Northrop Grumman or something versus you

3279
02:07:39,530 --> 02:07:36,560
know these really esoteric

3280
02:07:42,770 --> 02:07:39,540
trans-dimensional systems that are

3281
02:07:47,510 --> 02:07:42,780
man-made and that can stage and deceive

3282
02:07:49,550 --> 02:07:47,520
people quite easily and they're very

3283
02:07:51,410 --> 02:07:49,560
good at this by the way you know and

3284
02:07:53,270 --> 02:07:51,420
they've been perfecting it from the 50s

3285
02:07:57,169 --> 02:07:53,280
in the early days

3286
02:07:59,270 --> 02:07:57,179
they used a short statured guys with

3287
02:08:02,390 --> 02:07:59,280
made them up in Hollywood type things on

3288
02:08:05,270 --> 02:08:02,400
board uh man-made craft and then would

3289
02:08:07,370 --> 02:08:05,280
engage in abductions using so a canister

3290
02:08:10,250 --> 02:08:07,380
or some knockout chemical and what have

3291
02:08:12,770 --> 02:08:10,260
you but as they develop more and more

3292
02:08:15,169 --> 02:08:12,780
capabilities in these electronic warfare

3293
02:08:16,490 --> 02:08:15,179
systems they then also created these

3294
02:08:20,689 --> 02:08:16,500
sort of robotic

3295
02:08:22,390 --> 02:08:20,699
what look like aliens the Grays and you

3296
02:08:25,010 --> 02:08:22,400
know I know a number of guys

3297
02:08:27,109 --> 02:08:25,020
but very very similar at the level of

3298
02:08:31,370 --> 02:08:27,119
almost a nanobiomachine

3299
02:08:33,890 --> 02:08:31,380
uh type of thing and those are those are

3300
02:08:37,189 --> 02:08:33,900
what your typical abduction sequence

3301
02:08:38,689 --> 02:08:37,199
Critters uh you know and we know exactly

3302
02:08:40,250 --> 02:08:38,699
you know where they're being made who's

3303
02:08:41,810 --> 02:08:40,260
making them how they make them how

3304
02:08:43,970 --> 02:08:41,820
they're deployed

3305
02:08:45,709 --> 02:08:43,980
um and by the way there was an expose on

3306
02:08:48,530 --> 02:08:45,719
this in the 80s before I got on the

3307
02:08:50,870 --> 02:08:48,540
scene uh by a researcher uh but of

3308
02:08:54,470 --> 02:08:50,880
course he got booed uh out of the system

3309
02:08:56,270 --> 02:08:54,480
because it blew up everyone's uh belief

3310
02:08:58,609 --> 02:08:56,280
system of the good and the bad aliens

3311
02:09:00,830 --> 02:08:58,619
and you know they look they want

3312
02:09:05,570 --> 02:09:00,840
everyone to be addicted to some other

3313
02:09:07,430 --> 02:09:05,580
narrative to replace racism and uh

3314
02:09:10,729 --> 02:09:07,440
division on the planet they want the

3315
02:09:12,109 --> 02:09:10,739
humans to be United but against an alien

3316
02:09:13,490 --> 02:09:12,119
threat it's a it's a very simple

3317
02:09:15,050 --> 02:09:13,500
narrative

3318
02:09:16,810 --> 02:09:15,060
um and it's what demagogues have done

3319
02:09:19,550 --> 02:09:16,820
you know for thousands of years

3320
02:09:21,589 --> 02:09:19,560
consolidate power but this is on a

3321
02:09:25,189 --> 02:09:21,599
larger scale than just the British

3322
02:09:26,810 --> 02:09:25,199
staging you know and and setting up the

3323
02:09:28,430 --> 02:09:26,820
mayores fighting against each other in

3324
02:09:30,890 --> 02:09:28,440
museum Island so that they could go in

3325
02:09:32,750 --> 02:09:30,900
the breach and Conquer New Zealand so

3326
02:09:35,149 --> 02:09:32,760
this you know this is a much more

3327
02:09:37,850 --> 02:09:35,159
sophisticated high-tech version of that

3328
02:09:40,609 --> 02:09:37,860
but that's but that's been a strategy

3329
02:09:42,530 --> 02:09:40,619
that the military planners have done for

3330
02:09:44,330 --> 02:09:42,540
thousands of years but in this case

3331
02:09:47,030 --> 02:09:44,340
you're dealing with some very Advanced

3332
02:09:48,830 --> 02:09:47,040
Technologies quite capable of deceiving

3333
02:09:51,649 --> 02:09:48,840
almost everyone involved and that's

3334
02:09:54,890 --> 02:09:51,659
that's a problem because ultimately what

3335
02:09:56,629 --> 02:09:54,900
that creates uh is you know how do you

3336
02:09:58,850 --> 02:09:56,639
begin to have do you have to set up a

3337
02:10:01,609 --> 02:09:58,860
system where anything that happens goes

3338
02:10:03,649 --> 02:10:01,619
through a whole analysis of uh you know

3339
02:10:04,970 --> 02:10:03,659
is it this this this or this and you

3340
02:10:07,129 --> 02:10:04,980
know there's a whole set of things that

3341
02:10:08,810 --> 02:10:07,139
might be and I don't see that people are

3342
02:10:11,209 --> 02:10:08,820
doing that it's a little bit I liken

3343
02:10:13,850 --> 02:10:11,219
this to a doctor someone comes in with

3344
02:10:15,229 --> 02:10:13,860
chest pain and they're so poorly trained

3345
02:10:16,609 --> 02:10:15,239
they have to conclude it's a heart

3346
02:10:19,430 --> 02:10:16,619
attack and treat them for a heart attack

3347
02:10:22,490 --> 02:10:19,440
when it could be a dissecting thoracic

3348
02:10:24,530 --> 02:10:22,500
aneurysm or pleurisy or uh pulmonary

3349
02:10:26,089 --> 02:10:24,540
embolus or I mean it could be a hundred

3350
02:10:27,890 --> 02:10:26,099
things yeah right it could be all kinds

3351
02:10:30,830 --> 02:10:27,900
of things so

3352
02:10:34,609 --> 02:10:30,840
um what we have in this subject right

3353
02:10:38,030 --> 02:10:34,619
now is a crisis in analytics and

3354
02:10:41,750 --> 02:10:38,040
knowledge and information because the

3355
02:10:45,470 --> 02:10:41,760
the truth is the strangest things are

3356
02:10:48,530 --> 02:10:45,480
real and many of them are human in

3357
02:10:52,129 --> 02:10:48,540
origin uh now there are the high

3358
02:10:54,530 --> 02:10:52,139
strangeness aspects of the ET uh events

3359
02:10:57,709 --> 02:10:54,540
and they're the highest strangest nature

3360
02:11:01,370 --> 02:10:57,719
of the interdimensional events the sort

3361
02:11:02,930 --> 02:11:01,380
of the Montauk type scenario earlier

3362
02:11:05,330 --> 02:11:02,940
when when talking about the Havana

3363
02:11:08,589 --> 02:11:05,340
syndrome use the word scalar that stuck

3364
02:11:13,490 --> 02:11:08,599
out to me do you mind expanding on that

3365
02:11:16,070 --> 02:11:13,500
well you know there there are we look at

3366
02:11:19,310 --> 02:11:16,080
an electromagnetic signal as a as a wave

3367
02:11:21,109 --> 02:11:19,320
right it's propagating at 186 000 miles

3368
02:11:23,330 --> 02:11:21,119
per second

3369
02:11:25,370 --> 02:11:23,340
um and so the speed of light is that's

3370
02:11:29,089 --> 02:11:25,380
what speed of light is 186 000 miles

3371
02:11:31,010 --> 02:11:29,099
every second but it's a waveform but the

3372
02:11:33,709 --> 02:11:31,020
scalar longitudinal are actually a point

3373
02:11:35,390 --> 02:11:33,719
that goes out longitudinally without the

3374
02:11:37,189 --> 02:11:35,400
wave in other words it's a signal

3375
02:11:39,550 --> 02:11:37,199
without the wave and therefore it

3376
02:11:42,950 --> 02:11:39,560
propagates at significantly greater

3377
02:11:46,310 --> 02:11:42,960
velocity than the conventional uh speed

3378
02:11:48,109 --> 02:11:46,320
of light but it also can be weaponized

3379
02:11:50,990 --> 02:11:48,119
now one of the problems the whole reason

3380
02:11:52,970 --> 02:11:51,000
this whole modern era of UFO events

3381
02:11:54,890 --> 02:11:52,980
happened is that when we began to

3382
02:11:57,350 --> 02:11:54,900
detonate thermonuclear weapons and

3383
02:11:59,570 --> 02:11:57,360
atomic weapons everyone knows about the

3384
02:12:02,870 --> 02:11:59,580
EMP the electromagnetic pulse what they

3385
02:12:05,089 --> 02:12:02,880
don't know is that attendant to that

3386
02:12:07,729 --> 02:12:05,099
that is using not we didn't have the

3387
02:12:10,970 --> 02:12:07,739
instruments to detect it is is a big

3388
02:12:13,729 --> 02:12:10,980
pulse that actually disrupts

3389
02:12:15,950 --> 02:12:13,739
trans-dimensionally

3390
02:12:17,810 --> 02:12:15,960
ET Communications and transportation in

3391
02:12:19,970 --> 02:12:17,820
other worlds in other words it tears the

3392
02:12:22,850 --> 02:12:19,980
universe in a way that's very

3393
02:12:25,189 --> 02:12:22,860
destructive because of that big pulse is

3394
02:12:29,390 --> 02:12:25,199
has attendant to it one of these scalar

3395
02:12:32,750 --> 02:12:29,400
type uh frequencies and it's it's very

3396
02:12:35,030 --> 02:12:32,760
can be very destructive so that's why

3397
02:12:39,589 --> 02:12:35,040
all of a sudden there were all these ET

3398
02:12:41,689 --> 02:12:39,599
craft around Los Alamos and uh the

3399
02:12:44,030 --> 02:12:41,699
Trinity site White Sands and in

3400
02:12:46,189 --> 02:12:44,040
particular Roswell people forget that

3401
02:12:49,189 --> 02:12:46,199
the only place that we had

3402
02:12:52,790 --> 02:12:49,199
nuclear weapons Atomic weapons actually

3403
02:12:56,750 --> 02:12:52,800
at that time in 1947 on Earth was the

3404
02:12:59,689 --> 02:12:56,760
Roswell Army Air Base and that's why the

3405
02:13:02,870 --> 02:12:59,699
ete craft were there we had hidden in a

3406
02:13:04,370 --> 02:13:02,880
new radar Dome uh electromagnetic one of

3407
02:13:07,609 --> 02:13:04,380
these directional energy weapons in

3408
02:13:09,410 --> 02:13:07,619
there that scrambled those craft and uh

3409
02:13:12,649 --> 02:13:09,420
three of them crashed from the best

3410
02:13:14,629 --> 02:13:12,659
arcount two of them were recovered right

3411
02:13:16,790 --> 02:13:14,639
away one was blown with Smithereens one

3412
02:13:19,370 --> 02:13:16,800
continued further west there was another

3413
02:13:22,129 --> 02:13:19,380
one I think was not found until uh 1950

3414
02:13:24,830 --> 02:13:22,139
or 51 more in the Northwest the

3415
02:13:28,010 --> 02:13:24,840
mountains of New Mexico

3416
02:13:30,530 --> 02:13:28,020
um but that all if you if you look at

3417
02:13:33,950 --> 02:13:30,540
the testimony of Colonel diedrich's son

3418
02:13:35,629 --> 02:13:33,960
who back in those days in the 60s on he

3419
02:13:37,629 --> 02:13:35,639
was the head of all the atomic energy

3420
02:13:40,129 --> 02:13:37,639
Commission Now Department of energy

3421
02:13:42,109 --> 02:13:40,139
Atomic facilities and Military it was an

3422
02:13:44,330 --> 02:13:42,119
Air Force Colonel and he said oh yes

3423
02:13:48,770 --> 02:13:44,340
every single one of our Atomic

3424
02:13:51,290 --> 02:13:48,780
processing plants uranium uh uh weapon

3425
02:13:54,350 --> 02:13:51,300
storage areas a launch missile

3426
02:13:56,810 --> 02:13:54,360
facilities had been surveyed surveilled

3427
02:13:58,910 --> 02:13:56,820
by these extraterrestrial Vehicles

3428
02:14:00,169 --> 02:13:58,920
because they have such great concern to

3429
02:14:01,970 --> 02:14:00,179
not only what they could do to this

3430
02:14:03,830 --> 02:14:01,980
planet but when they're detonated they

3431
02:14:06,109 --> 02:14:03,840
actually are incredibly disruptive they

3432
02:14:07,669 --> 02:14:06,119
kind of rip the fabric of the universe

3433
02:14:10,430 --> 02:14:07,679
and that that

3434
02:14:12,229 --> 02:14:10,440
makes it very foreboding if the UAP is

3435
02:14:13,850 --> 02:14:12,239
in being seen over Ukraine at the moment

3436
02:14:16,669 --> 02:14:13,860
what do you think of that what do you

3437
02:14:18,830 --> 02:14:16,679
think are they attracted to conflict

3438
02:14:20,510 --> 02:14:18,840
are they trying to prevent a disaster a

3439
02:14:23,030 --> 02:14:20,520
potential World War III event or

3440
02:14:25,250 --> 02:14:23,040
honestly I I have seen just what you've

3441
02:14:26,689 --> 02:14:25,260
seen that picture and information I

3442
02:14:27,470 --> 02:14:26,699
don't have any other information I do

3443
02:14:30,589 --> 02:14:27,480
know

3444
02:14:32,689 --> 02:14:30,599
that wherever there's a big risk

3445
02:14:35,330 --> 02:14:32,699
of of that something like that happening

3446
02:14:37,430 --> 02:14:35,340
they're going to be concerned and

3447
02:14:39,649 --> 02:14:37,440
observing it because they not only know

3448
02:14:40,910 --> 02:14:39,659
the damage it can cause on Earth but

3449
02:14:43,189 --> 02:14:40,920
they know the damage it can cause

3450
02:14:44,930 --> 02:14:43,199
elsewhere because again everyone's

3451
02:14:47,270 --> 02:14:44,940
everyone's still living in a

3452
02:14:49,129 --> 02:14:47,280
straight-line Newtonian World they think

3453
02:14:51,770 --> 02:14:49,139
what happens on this little planet here

3454
02:14:53,689 --> 02:14:51,780
has no effect on a distant star system

3455
02:14:56,089 --> 02:14:53,699
or Galaxy and that's simply not true

3456
02:14:58,189 --> 02:14:56,099
when you start getting into non-locality

3457
02:15:01,430 --> 02:14:58,199
and entanglement and the entangled

3458
02:15:02,689 --> 02:15:01,440
universe but on a macro scale so you

3459
02:15:05,030 --> 02:15:02,699
know it's one of these things where we

3460
02:15:07,370 --> 02:15:05,040
stumbled across this in the 40s and 50s

3461
02:15:09,770 --> 02:15:07,380
with atomic and thermonuclear weapons

3462
02:15:11,870 --> 02:15:09,780
but we didn't know what kind of Hornet's

3463
02:15:14,569 --> 02:15:11,880
Nest was getting kicked

3464
02:15:17,030 --> 02:15:14,579
um so that's a very serious problem and

3465
02:15:18,530 --> 02:15:17,040
every Military Intelligence person I

3466
02:15:20,810 --> 02:15:18,540
know who's been read into this problem

3467
02:15:22,790 --> 02:15:20,820
knows what I'm telling you about that

3468
02:15:25,430 --> 02:15:22,800
but that would make sense why you know

3469
02:15:28,430 --> 02:15:25,440
you have you have you know Putin

3470
02:15:30,530 --> 02:15:28,440
rattling a saber saying he's has because

3471
02:15:32,629 --> 02:15:30,540
we dropped bombs on Hiroshima nakasaki

3472
02:15:35,089 --> 02:15:32,639
there's a precedent for him to use

3473
02:15:38,569 --> 02:15:35,099
weapons at least a smaller tactical

3474
02:15:41,330 --> 02:15:38,579
Battlefield sized ones if his country is

3475
02:15:43,490 --> 02:15:41,340
threatened uh and now since they he sort

3476
02:15:45,589 --> 02:15:43,500
of set up a scam thing to Annex part of

3477
02:15:47,030 --> 02:15:45,599
Ukraine now anything that happens in

3478
02:15:50,209 --> 02:15:47,040
that part is an invasion of the

3479
02:15:52,850 --> 02:15:50,219
motherland of Russia therefore we can

3480
02:15:55,129 --> 02:15:52,860
use nuclear weapons so very dangerous

3481
02:15:57,129 --> 02:15:55,139
um so it would not surprise me therefore

3482
02:16:00,189 --> 02:15:57,139
that there would be both

3483
02:16:03,910 --> 02:16:00,199
extraterrestrial and human

3484
02:16:07,069 --> 02:16:03,920
Advanced aircraft in there

3485
02:16:09,649 --> 02:16:07,079
the man-made the man-made UFOs as well

3486
02:16:11,750 --> 02:16:09,659
as the ET ones it seems that a lot of

3487
02:16:14,089 --> 02:16:11,760
the control for the disclosure process

3488
02:16:15,350 --> 02:16:14,099
is actually in the hands of the others

3489
02:16:16,790 --> 02:16:15,360
whoever they may be you know the whole

3490
02:16:19,669 --> 02:16:16,800
range of them

3491
02:16:21,890 --> 02:16:19,679
um what do you think yeah just you know

3492
02:16:24,470 --> 02:16:21,900
the phenomena at large

3493
02:16:27,169 --> 02:16:24,480
um no that's not true that is not true

3494
02:16:28,910 --> 02:16:27,179
no we didn't say so I was just going to

3495
02:16:30,470 --> 02:16:28,920
ask why you think they wouldn't reveal

3496
02:16:32,629 --> 02:16:30,480
themselves on mass around the world and

3497
02:16:34,730 --> 02:16:32,639
kind of end this process you know

3498
02:16:36,290 --> 02:16:34,740
well because you know it's a little

3499
02:16:38,750 --> 02:16:36,300
corny it's like the prime directive

3500
02:16:41,089 --> 02:16:38,760
first of all if they were to do that

3501
02:16:43,250 --> 02:16:41,099
it would induce worldwide panic because

3502
02:16:45,730 --> 02:16:43,260
there'd be no context it would be

3503
02:16:50,209 --> 02:16:45,740
portrayed as an alien invasion because

3504
02:16:54,230 --> 02:16:50,219
you everyone you know the media every

3505
02:16:56,929 --> 02:16:54,240
movie Independence Day uh the all the

3506
02:16:58,669 --> 02:16:56,939
invasion you know alien from Ridley

3507
02:17:01,969 --> 02:16:58,679
Scott all this is going to kick into

3508
02:17:04,250 --> 02:17:01,979
people's subconscious to the fore and

3509
02:17:06,830 --> 02:17:04,260
they know that this is not how it should

3510
02:17:09,770 --> 02:17:06,840
happen it should happen that humans

3511
02:17:12,530 --> 02:17:09,780
tell the truth about it for once in our

3512
02:17:16,490 --> 02:17:12,540
lives tell the truth deal with it

3513
02:17:18,469 --> 02:17:16,500
directly educate each other and begin to

3514
02:17:20,270 --> 02:17:18,479
make peaceful contact with them in a

3515
02:17:22,129 --> 02:17:20,280
rational way if they were to do now

3516
02:17:23,690 --> 02:17:22,139
could they do that of course I mean they

3517
02:17:25,549 --> 02:17:23,700
could do something to be booming to be

3518
02:17:28,910 --> 02:17:25,559
over could they take out every weapon

3519
02:17:31,790 --> 02:17:28,920
system we have instantly yes but this is

3520
02:17:33,770 --> 02:17:31,800
not the way of advanced civilization

3521
02:17:36,410 --> 02:17:33,780
Center interact with the Primitive one

3522
02:17:38,530 --> 02:17:36,420
which is humans I mean we're not a level

3523
02:17:41,690 --> 02:17:38,540
one yet we're a level zero civilization

3524
02:17:44,150 --> 02:17:41,700
so you know they're not going to do that

3525
02:17:46,669 --> 02:17:44,160
because the other problem is if there's

3526
02:17:49,129 --> 02:17:46,679
that kind of intervention externally

3527
02:17:50,990 --> 02:17:49,139
then we don't evolve we don't learn the

3528
02:17:52,250 --> 02:17:51,000
lessons we don't learn what we have to

3529
02:17:55,490 --> 02:17:52,260
learn

3530
02:17:58,429 --> 02:17:55,500
um to become a more evolved socially

3531
02:18:00,589 --> 02:17:58,439
spiritually and materially uh as an

3532
02:18:02,330 --> 02:18:00,599
advanced civilization because it's

3533
02:18:04,250 --> 02:18:02,340
almost like I have raised four children

3534
02:18:07,070 --> 02:18:04,260
now we have our 12th grandchild on the

3535
02:18:08,389 --> 02:18:07,080
way if every time that every if every

3536
02:18:10,669 --> 02:18:08,399
time that child

3537
02:18:12,589 --> 02:18:10,679
was about to fall when it's learning to

3538
02:18:14,509 --> 02:18:12,599
walk you stopped it and held it it would

3539
02:18:17,990 --> 02:18:14,519
never learn to walk

3540
02:18:20,690 --> 02:18:18,000
so so it's it's that's a simplistic

3541
02:18:23,270 --> 02:18:20,700
analogy to sort of a cosmic perspective

3542
02:18:25,969 --> 02:18:23,280
of a civilization coming from an

3543
02:18:28,370 --> 02:18:25,979
agrarian early industrial and now bang

3544
02:18:30,969 --> 02:18:28,380
we hit this threshold of advanced

3545
02:18:33,469 --> 02:18:30,979
science and physics but unfortunately

3546
02:18:35,030 --> 02:18:33,479
our technologies have gotten ahead of

3547
02:18:38,509 --> 02:18:35,040
our social and Spiritual Development

3548
02:18:40,250 --> 02:18:38,519
meaning that you know we're not socially

3549
02:18:42,770 --> 02:18:40,260
and spuriously developed enough to have

3550
02:18:45,049 --> 02:18:42,780
these Technologies and not first use

3551
02:18:47,450 --> 02:18:45,059
them in a war or in a weapon system like

3552
02:18:49,849 --> 02:18:47,460
a thermonuclear weapon so this becomes

3553
02:18:52,429 --> 02:18:49,859
to be a real problem because the the

3554
02:18:54,490 --> 02:18:52,439
extinction level events that wipe out

3555
02:18:58,190 --> 02:18:54,500
and have wiped out prior civilizations

3556
02:19:01,009 --> 02:18:58,200
is when the Technologies get ahead of

3557
02:19:03,830 --> 02:19:01,019
the social and spiritual Evolution and

3558
02:19:06,230 --> 02:19:03,840
development of the people of that planet

3559
02:19:08,690 --> 02:19:06,240
so that's where this is another thing

3560
02:19:11,030 --> 02:19:08,700
that keeps recurring is that there has

3561
02:19:13,370 --> 02:19:11,040
to be the development of Consciousness

3562
02:19:15,770 --> 02:19:13,380
the development socially and spiritually

3563
02:19:17,089 --> 02:19:15,780
but the problem right now is we're

3564
02:19:19,610 --> 02:19:17,099
running out of time for it to happen

3565
02:19:22,129 --> 02:19:19,620
sequentially it has to all happen kind

3566
02:19:24,169 --> 02:19:22,139
of at once because we're headed over

3567
02:19:26,570 --> 02:19:24,179
this Cliff with the biosphere and the

3568
02:19:28,730 --> 02:19:26,580
environment and a lot of other problems

3569
02:19:32,110 --> 02:19:28,740
including the risk of thermonuclear war

3570
02:19:35,450 --> 02:19:32,120
so this is we're at the Crux of a huge

3571
02:19:38,150 --> 02:19:35,460
pivotal inflection point in in human

3572
02:19:39,950 --> 02:19:38,160
evolution and we really have to figure

3573
02:19:42,049 --> 02:19:39,960
out how we're going to manage that so

3574
02:19:44,150 --> 02:19:42,059
that's that's why I left my medical

3575
02:19:47,450 --> 02:19:44,160
career let's try to see if we could fix

3576
02:19:49,130 --> 02:19:47,460
it before it's too late given that these

3577
02:19:51,230 --> 02:19:49,140
beings are said to be able to work

3578
02:19:53,150 --> 02:19:51,240
through cognitive manipulation and that

3579
02:19:55,310 --> 02:19:53,160
level of advancement

3580
02:19:58,610 --> 02:19:55,320
um how can we be sure that what we're

3581
02:20:00,650 --> 02:19:58,620
presented by them is real that they

3582
02:20:03,230 --> 02:20:00,660
don't have ulterior motives and just to

3583
02:20:04,910 --> 02:20:03,240
add on to that do you think that all of

3584
02:20:06,349 --> 02:20:04,920
the others are benevolent so that

3585
02:20:08,030 --> 02:20:06,359
there's a range

3586
02:20:09,530 --> 02:20:08,040
um and just because we're touched on and

3587
02:20:11,270 --> 02:20:09,540
see five things here I just wanted to

3588
02:20:16,010 --> 02:20:11,280
ask if you think there'll ever be a

3589
02:20:21,650 --> 02:20:18,950
well I mean people can review what we

3590
02:20:23,570 --> 02:20:21,660
have done and what we put out already

3591
02:20:27,730 --> 02:20:23,580
um what I think in terms of your other

3592
02:20:30,290 --> 02:20:27,740
question is if the the people who are

3593
02:20:31,849 --> 02:20:30,300
really addicted to the idea that there

3594
02:20:34,910 --> 02:20:31,859
is the whole you know cowboys and

3595
02:20:38,389 --> 02:20:34,920
Indians uh good name bad aliens they

3596
02:20:40,370 --> 02:20:38,399
don't seem to understand that what part

3597
02:20:42,469 --> 02:20:40,380
of that assessment is coming from stage

3598
02:20:45,170 --> 02:20:42,479
to this that are deceptive indication

3599
02:20:47,330 --> 02:20:45,180
and warnings or false flag

3600
02:20:50,150 --> 02:20:47,340
um and I think it's a very

3601
02:20:53,690 --> 02:20:50,160
simple to slip into this because humans

3602
02:20:55,969 --> 02:20:53,700
always like to have that drama of US

3603
02:20:58,250 --> 02:20:55,979
versus them I mean look at how divided

3604
02:21:00,770 --> 02:20:58,260
our country is politically that is

3605
02:21:03,349 --> 02:21:00,780
something that people feed on that so

3606
02:21:05,510 --> 02:21:03,359
how much of that is sort of an

3607
02:21:06,830 --> 02:21:05,520
acculturation and a sort of a

3608
02:21:09,830 --> 02:21:06,840
brainwashing

3609
02:21:13,550 --> 02:21:09,840
and how much of it is objectively real

3610
02:21:15,530 --> 02:21:13,560
now having done thousands of hours with

3611
02:21:17,150 --> 02:21:15,540
thousands of people doing ce5 all over

3612
02:21:19,670 --> 02:21:17,160
the world and adding all kinds of

3613
02:21:21,710 --> 02:21:19,680
contact experiences I see no evidence

3614
02:21:24,349 --> 02:21:21,720
that any of them are hostile or

3615
02:21:25,790 --> 02:21:24,359
malevolent in any way shape or form all

3616
02:21:27,410 --> 02:21:25,800
the things that have happened that have

3617
02:21:30,230 --> 02:21:27,420
been disturbing in that way have been

3618
02:21:34,070 --> 02:21:30,240
man-made copycat you know sort of

3619
02:21:36,410 --> 02:21:34,080
CopyCat alien stuff so my objective

3620
02:21:39,110 --> 02:21:36,420
analysis of it is I don't I don't see

3621
02:21:40,910 --> 02:21:39,120
that that's the case another sort of

3622
02:21:43,490 --> 02:21:40,920
intellectual analysis of it and that's

3623
02:21:45,469 --> 02:21:43,500
just empirical The Experience we've had

3624
02:21:47,389 --> 02:21:45,479
so you know a lot of people sit in their

3625
02:21:48,410 --> 02:21:47,399
their houses Googling the internet and

3626
02:21:50,030 --> 02:21:48,420
they think they know what they're doing

3627
02:21:51,710 --> 02:21:50,040
but they never go out and try to make

3628
02:21:53,030 --> 02:21:51,720
contact or observe something in real

3629
02:21:56,150 --> 02:21:53,040
time

3630
02:21:57,830 --> 02:21:56,160
um but so in doing that now for decades

3631
02:22:01,190 --> 02:21:57,840
I don't see any evidence of any of them

3632
02:22:04,309 --> 02:22:01,200
are hustle I do think that there have

3633
02:22:06,410 --> 02:22:04,319
been a number of staged events that

3634
02:22:09,349 --> 02:22:06,420
would make people conclude that they

3635
02:22:11,990 --> 02:22:09,359
were uh like the terrible burn victims

3636
02:22:14,570 --> 02:22:12,000
and the cash Landrum case which was our

3637
02:22:16,969 --> 02:22:14,580
covert Air Force operations out of

3638
02:22:19,190 --> 02:22:16,979
Nellis flying and extraterrestrial

3639
02:22:22,130 --> 02:22:19,200
vehicle we had captured and they put a

3640
02:22:24,050 --> 02:22:22,140
nuclear a a reactor on it because they

3641
02:22:26,389 --> 02:22:24,060
couldn't quite figure out the energy

3642
02:22:28,070 --> 02:22:26,399
generating part of it and it was being

3643
02:22:31,309 --> 02:22:28,080
flown and it malfunctioned and

3644
02:22:32,809 --> 02:22:31,319
radioactive junk was failing on on Betty

3645
02:22:35,090 --> 02:22:32,819
cash and Landrum and they were

3646
02:22:37,730 --> 02:22:35,100
hospitalized and that whole area the

3647
02:22:39,170 --> 02:22:37,740
road had to be dug up twice to get rid

3648
02:22:42,530 --> 02:22:39,180
of all the radioactivity that was there

3649
02:22:45,230 --> 02:22:42,540
but that was a human mishap of a test

3650
02:22:47,330 --> 02:22:45,240
flight of an extra vehicle but they were

3651
02:22:50,270 --> 02:22:47,340
happy for the media and the public to

3652
02:22:52,010 --> 02:22:50,280
say that aliens are poisoning us with

3653
02:22:54,010 --> 02:22:52,020
radioactive you see what I'm saying yeah

3654
02:22:56,389 --> 02:22:54,020
it was monkeys in the microwave it's not

3655
02:22:58,610 --> 02:22:56,399
extraterrestrials yeah and so this is

3656
02:23:01,010 --> 02:22:58,620
one of the real problems is that you

3657
02:23:02,210 --> 02:23:01,020
have to have you know I tend to take a

3658
02:23:05,630 --> 02:23:02,220
very

3659
02:23:07,550 --> 02:23:05,640
um skeptical view of a facile that's

3660
02:23:10,010 --> 02:23:07,560
sort of superficial analysis of that

3661
02:23:12,710 --> 02:23:10,020
until you can get to the root

3662
02:23:15,530 --> 02:23:12,720
information from the people who were

3663
02:23:18,110 --> 02:23:15,540
there what actually happened here

3664
02:23:20,090 --> 02:23:18,120
um and I I think there are many cases

3665
02:23:23,150 --> 02:23:20,100
like that so things that have led to

3666
02:23:26,030 --> 02:23:23,160
these Grand conspiracy theories

3667
02:23:28,910 --> 02:23:26,040
um and fear-mongering uh I think so many

3668
02:23:31,790 --> 02:23:28,920
of them are staged or misperceptions of

3669
02:23:35,389 --> 02:23:31,800
human events and so I think we have to

3670
02:23:37,969 --> 02:23:35,399
be before we start jumping into the

3671
02:23:41,270 --> 02:23:37,979
Will Smith and Independence Day let's

3672
02:23:43,370 --> 02:23:41,280
kick alien butt category I think we need

3673
02:23:46,070 --> 02:23:43,380
to you know be a little more rational

3674
02:23:48,469 --> 02:23:46,080
and deliberative and this is why I don't

3675
02:23:51,110 --> 02:23:48,479
see any evidence that there is a hostile

3676
02:23:52,790 --> 02:23:51,120
or malevolent extraterrestrial group out

3677
02:23:55,550 --> 02:23:52,800
there I think there are some rather

3678
02:23:57,410 --> 02:23:55,560
trouble some interdimensional beings

3679
02:23:58,910 --> 02:23:57,420
you know this is get you get to some of

3680
02:24:01,910 --> 02:23:58,920
these people who work in these spooky

3681
02:24:04,250 --> 02:24:01,920
programs that are doing uh Satan worship

3682
02:24:05,870 --> 02:24:04,260
and devil worship and all kinds of scary

3683
02:24:08,510 --> 02:24:05,880
stuff

3684
02:24:11,030 --> 02:24:08,520
so where does love Faith and goodness

3685
02:24:11,710 --> 02:24:11,040
enter into this it's just the heart of

3686
02:24:17,030 --> 02:24:11,720
it

3687
02:24:19,910 --> 02:24:17,040
um in my opinion going forward as a

3688
02:24:23,450 --> 02:24:19,920
civilization higher Consciousness and

3689
02:24:26,750 --> 02:24:23,460
love and approaching all of this with a

3690
02:24:29,389 --> 02:24:26,760
a wisdom that prevents us from getting

3691
02:24:31,670 --> 02:24:29,399
pulled into these manipulative

3692
02:24:33,590 --> 02:24:31,680
narratives is is really key but that's

3693
02:24:35,929 --> 02:24:33,600
the heart and the higher Consciousness

3694
02:24:37,490 --> 02:24:35,939
being able to discern I mean part of

3695
02:24:38,630 --> 02:24:37,500
it's intellectual but a lot of it's the

3696
02:24:40,790 --> 02:24:38,640
heart

3697
02:24:43,309 --> 02:24:40,800
and ultimately this is I think these

3698
02:24:44,990 --> 02:24:43,319
visitors from other star systems are

3699
02:24:47,870 --> 02:24:45,000
very interested in the human

3700
02:24:51,349 --> 02:24:47,880
capabilities in that regard particularly

3701
02:24:52,910 --> 02:24:51,359
Consciousness and feeling and heart

3702
02:24:55,550 --> 02:24:52,920
um and I think you know the Breakthrough

3703
02:24:58,010 --> 02:24:55,560
where they found 30 or 40 000 neurons in

3704
02:25:02,330 --> 02:24:58,020
the human heart so there's this

3705
02:25:04,910 --> 02:25:02,340
resonance between mind and heart uh

3706
02:25:07,429 --> 02:25:04,920
feeling and Consciousness that we can

3707
02:25:10,330 --> 02:25:07,439
develop and that ultimately gives you

3708
02:25:12,950 --> 02:25:10,340
the ability to see and know and discern

3709
02:25:15,650 --> 02:25:12,960
accurately that you can't just

3710
02:25:18,290 --> 02:25:15,660
intellectually in in the intellect and

3711
02:25:20,450 --> 02:25:18,300
the ego so I think that's really the

3712
02:25:22,730 --> 02:25:20,460
guiding star that's the that's the North

3713
02:25:24,770 --> 02:25:22,740
Star is the development of higher

3714
02:25:26,690 --> 02:25:24,780
Consciousness and also being connected

3715
02:25:29,510 --> 02:25:26,700
to

3716
02:25:31,730 --> 02:25:29,520
um the love of the the universe of the

3717
02:25:34,070 --> 02:25:31,740
planet and of each other so that our

3718
02:25:37,250 --> 02:25:34,080
actions are Guided by that not just by

3719
02:25:39,050 --> 02:25:37,260
base greed and avarice or hatred or

3720
02:25:41,150 --> 02:25:39,060
whatever it is

3721
02:25:43,070 --> 02:25:41,160
um but you know people who want to you

3722
02:25:46,190 --> 02:25:43,080
know maintain control and manipulate the

3723
02:25:48,889 --> 02:25:46,200
population the love and peace don't cut

3724
02:25:50,990 --> 02:25:48,899
it I mean they need to have ways to get

3725
02:25:53,870 --> 02:25:51,000
people riled up like at a football game

3726
02:25:57,650 --> 02:25:53,880
and opposing teams and that's just

3727
02:26:00,730 --> 02:25:57,660
another dysfunctional uh Power Dynamic

3728
02:26:03,170 --> 02:26:00,740
on Earth that has to get uh

3729
02:26:04,790 --> 02:26:03,180
addressed and fixed but ultimately

3730
02:26:06,230 --> 02:26:04,800
that's each of us individually have to

3731
02:26:08,510 --> 02:26:06,240
fix that

3732
02:26:10,070 --> 02:26:08,520
yeah that's a that's a I am running I

3733
02:26:12,710 --> 02:26:10,080
have another hard meeting I'm a little

3734
02:26:14,809 --> 02:26:12,720
bit over uh well thank you for spending

3735
02:26:16,610 --> 02:26:14,819
so much time it's an honor and I thank

3736
02:26:19,190 --> 02:26:16,620
you because we went overtime so thank

3737
02:26:22,010 --> 02:26:19,200
you yeah I just I just saw that it's

3738
02:26:23,990 --> 02:26:22,020
almost 4 20. oh 4 20. okay okay before

3739
02:26:25,670 --> 02:26:24,000
you go some people keep saying so what's

3740
02:26:26,690 --> 02:26:25,680
your opinion on Richard Doty do you want

3741
02:26:29,389 --> 02:26:26,700
to just answer that and then we can

3742
02:26:31,429 --> 02:26:29,399
close with a positive message about love

3743
02:26:33,469 --> 02:26:31,439
like something practical like what

3744
02:26:34,610 --> 02:26:33,479
should everyone watching do so what are

3745
02:26:35,990 --> 02:26:34,620
your opinions on Dodie and then clothes

3746
02:26:37,910 --> 02:26:36,000
on love

3747
02:26:39,830 --> 02:26:37,920
well I mean he's a counterintelligence

3748
02:26:41,690 --> 02:26:39,840
he's put out a lot of disinformation but

3749
02:26:42,950 --> 02:26:41,700
he's also we were able to get a certain

3750
02:26:45,950 --> 02:26:42,960
amount of really important information

3751
02:26:48,770 --> 02:26:45,960
out of him which you can see on our um

3752
02:26:50,690 --> 02:26:48,780
Channel our YouTube channel uh and he

3753
02:26:52,969 --> 02:26:50,700
was able to confirm that they were doing

3754
02:26:55,070 --> 02:26:52,979
human abductions and that he was able to

3755
02:26:57,110 --> 02:26:55,080
confirm that they were paying off and

3756
02:27:00,230 --> 02:26:57,120
bribing the media

3757
02:27:02,690 --> 02:27:00,240
um so uh you know I think that in his uh

3758
02:27:05,750 --> 02:27:02,700
later years he's been trying to put out

3759
02:27:07,309 --> 02:27:05,760
some valuable sort of information about

3760
02:27:09,830 --> 02:27:07,319
that

3761
02:27:12,410 --> 02:27:09,840
um which I think many people who've been

3762
02:27:15,230 --> 02:27:12,420
involved with some of these dark arts

3763
02:27:16,969 --> 02:27:15,240
and nefarious activities at some point

3764
02:27:20,510 --> 02:27:16,979
they do kind of want to let some of the

3765
02:27:23,090 --> 02:27:20,520
truths come out before they get too old

3766
02:27:24,830 --> 02:27:23,100
um as far as you know how people can

3767
02:27:28,190 --> 02:27:24,840
help I hope you guys will all go to the

3768
02:27:29,870 --> 02:27:28,200
lost centuryfilm.com and help us get the

3769
02:27:32,510 --> 02:27:29,880
crowdfunding in place we're already in

3770
02:27:34,010 --> 02:27:32,520
production on this documentary film we

3771
02:27:36,889 --> 02:27:34,020
hope it comes out in the spring maybe

3772
02:27:38,809 --> 02:27:36,899
April or May hard to predict that with

3773
02:27:40,730 --> 02:27:38,819
Hollywood but

3774
02:27:44,630 --> 02:27:40,740
um and we really wanted to be sort of a

3775
02:27:47,450 --> 02:27:44,640
big uh a big leap forward in terms of

3776
02:27:50,389 --> 02:27:47,460
human awareness of the the kind of

3777
02:27:52,610 --> 02:27:50,399
beautiful world we can have if we can

3778
02:27:56,570 --> 02:27:52,620
bring these Technologies to Peaceful use

3779
02:27:59,870 --> 02:27:56,580
because imagine this in 20 years by the

3780
02:28:02,929 --> 02:27:59,880
time my grandchildren are are having

3781
02:28:06,130 --> 02:28:02,939
their kids uh we would have a world

3782
02:28:09,170 --> 02:28:06,140
without pollution without power lines

3783
02:28:12,349 --> 02:28:09,180
without poverty globally

3784
02:28:14,030 --> 02:28:12,359
and with a sustainable planet and the

3785
02:28:17,090 --> 02:28:14,040
release of the technologies that would

3786
02:28:19,969 --> 02:28:17,100
also clean up the oceans and the land

3787
02:28:22,910 --> 02:28:19,979
that we've already kind of ruined so

3788
02:28:25,010 --> 02:28:22,920
that those are all possible in fact the

3789
02:28:28,250 --> 02:28:25,020
the very hopeful message I give people

3790
02:28:30,530 --> 02:28:28,260
is that those sciences and Technologies

3791
02:28:33,170 --> 02:28:30,540
are extinct they're already on the

3792
02:28:36,410 --> 02:28:33,180
planet but there has to be a strategy

3793
02:28:38,750 --> 02:28:36,420
and a Groundswell like a Grassroots

3794
02:28:40,730 --> 02:28:38,760
movement to bring It Forward because

3795
02:28:42,830 --> 02:28:40,740
it's not going to come out the centers

3796
02:28:45,230 --> 02:28:42,840
of power never going to shoot themselves

3797
02:28:46,790 --> 02:28:45,240
in the foot so if it's gonna if this

3798
02:28:49,010 --> 02:28:46,800
change is going to happen it has to come

3799
02:28:51,170 --> 02:28:49,020
from us Little Folks like you and me

3800
02:28:53,330 --> 02:28:51,180
that are doing this outside these

3801
02:28:56,090 --> 02:28:53,340
centers of power and but if we come

3802
02:28:58,730 --> 02:28:56,100
together and do it and in right action

3803
02:29:02,150 --> 02:28:58,740
and with courage I think we're going to

3804
02:29:04,910 --> 02:29:02,160
have in 20 years of extremely different

3805
02:29:08,090 --> 02:29:04,920
planet than we have now the alternative

3806
02:29:10,130 --> 02:29:08,100
is extinction frankly so I tell people

3807
02:29:12,590 --> 02:29:10,140
that whether they're Ohio net worth

3808
02:29:14,270 --> 02:29:12,600
person or a scientist you know this is a

3809
02:29:16,730 --> 02:29:14,280
very pressing issue and if we didn't

3810
02:29:18,830 --> 02:29:16,740
already have the solution you'd be happy

3811
02:29:20,630 --> 02:29:18,840
you could be allowed to be despondent

3812
02:29:23,389 --> 02:29:20,640
but we do have the solutions and that's

3813
02:29:25,130 --> 02:29:23,399
what we want to prove and well you'll

3814
02:29:27,370 --> 02:29:25,140
see the backbone of the whole film on

3815
02:29:30,110 --> 02:29:27,380
October 25th if you get on the webinar

3816
02:29:30,830 --> 02:29:30,120
unfortunately the event itself is sold

3817
02:29:32,570 --> 02:29:30,840
out

3818
02:29:34,670 --> 02:29:32,580
the links for that will be in the

3819
02:29:35,630 --> 02:29:34,680
description so and then great yep yep

3820
02:29:41,530 --> 02:29:35,640
the links to that will be in the

3821
02:29:45,110 --> 02:29:43,849
and then it has a closing question for

3822
02:29:46,490 --> 02:29:45,120
you if you could spend like two more

3823
02:29:48,290 --> 02:29:46,500
minutes or one minute yeah absolutely

3824
02:29:50,030 --> 02:29:48,300
final question Stephen you've been so

3825
02:29:51,349 --> 02:29:50,040
great thank you Dr gria

3826
02:29:53,990 --> 02:29:51,359
um very enlightened and feeling a lot of

3827
02:29:55,790 --> 02:29:54,000
information gaps so you briefed uh CIA

3828
02:29:57,710 --> 02:29:55,800
director Woolsey

3829
02:29:59,090 --> 02:29:57,720
um and he later turned around and said

3830
02:30:00,070 --> 02:29:59,100
actually it wasn't breathing it was a

3831
02:30:02,870 --> 02:30:00,080
dinner party

3832
02:30:04,670 --> 02:30:02,880
I wanted to ask you like a number of

3833
02:30:06,650 --> 02:30:04,680
people have said I wasn't really briefed

3834
02:30:08,330 --> 02:30:06,660
I wanted to ask you do you know any

3835
02:30:10,670 --> 02:30:08,340
reason for that discrepancy

3836
02:30:13,070 --> 02:30:10,680
because the subject they don't want to

3837
02:30:14,809 --> 02:30:13,080
admit that they had an interest in the

3838
02:30:18,290 --> 02:30:14,819
subject was the subject has such high

3839
02:30:23,809 --> 02:30:22,010
you know social uh ridicule and uh the

3840
02:30:25,849 --> 02:30:23,819
other part of it is that they don't want

3841
02:30:27,830 --> 02:30:25,859
to admit that after they were read in

3842
02:30:30,110 --> 02:30:27,840
they were pulled in and then betrayed

3843
02:30:31,870 --> 02:30:30,120
the country

3844
02:30:35,150 --> 02:30:31,880
all right

3845
02:30:37,250 --> 02:30:35,160
so yeah it is and it's the truth

3846
02:30:38,990 --> 02:30:37,260
um luckily you know I have the I have

3847
02:30:40,490 --> 02:30:39,000
the correspondence and the FedEx that

3848
02:30:42,410 --> 02:30:40,500
set up the meeting what the purpose of

3849
02:30:44,450 --> 02:30:42,420
the meeting was and I always help people

3850
02:30:49,429 --> 02:30:44,460
look in Washington how do you know

3851
02:30:53,510 --> 02:30:51,889
so I I looked I did I just shrug and go

3852
02:30:55,550 --> 02:30:53,520
yeah what do you expect I mean you know

3853
02:30:58,849 --> 02:30:55,560
it's been it's you know disassembling

3854
02:31:01,969 --> 02:30:58,859
and a disingenuous comments and and

3855
02:31:03,770 --> 02:31:01,979
whatnot it I just it doesn't affect me

3856
02:31:06,110 --> 02:31:03,780
at all because I'm shocked when it

3857
02:31:08,809 --> 02:31:06,120
doesn't happen

3858
02:31:10,550 --> 02:31:08,819
that's great but you know I I share the

3859
02:31:13,550 --> 02:31:10,560
truth and people may not like the truth

3860
02:31:15,110 --> 02:31:13,560
that's the truth is I know it and

3861
02:31:17,570 --> 02:31:15,120
um I do think there's a responsibility

3862
02:31:20,270 --> 02:31:17,580
to people who who do receive this kind

3863
02:31:23,510 --> 02:31:20,280
of information to act on it in a way

3864
02:31:26,030 --> 02:31:23,520
that benefits the the human species that

3865
02:31:28,610 --> 02:31:26,040
our country and when they don't they

3866
02:31:30,550 --> 02:31:28,620
have uh failed to fulfill the duties of

3867
02:31:33,230 --> 02:31:30,560
their office

3868
02:31:35,270 --> 02:31:33,240
take care sir I appreciate you going way

3869
02:31:36,590 --> 02:31:35,280
over time thank you so next time maybe

3870
02:31:38,150 --> 02:31:36,600
we can talk about the Wilson docs

3871
02:31:40,250 --> 02:31:38,160
there's so many questions about that but

3872
02:31:41,750 --> 02:31:40,260
yeah

3873
02:31:44,809 --> 02:31:41,760
all right you guys have a good time take

3874
02:31:48,230 --> 02:31:44,819
care thank you bye-bye

3875
02:31:50,630 --> 02:31:48,240
okay all right Dan how's that

3876
02:31:52,429 --> 02:31:50,640
that was great uh it took a while to

3877
02:31:54,110 --> 02:31:52,439
find the Rhythm I think but but I think

3878
02:31:57,290 --> 02:31:54,120
we got a lot and seven we got a lot of

3879
02:31:59,330 --> 02:31:57,300
information from Dr greater yep yep

3880
02:32:00,590 --> 02:31:59,340
Justice Bieber was my favorite part I

3881
02:32:02,809 --> 02:32:00,600
want to make a hashtag about that

3882
02:32:04,910 --> 02:32:02,819
Justice Bieber

3883
02:32:06,590 --> 02:32:04,920
I'm grateful that Stephen Curry Dr

3884
02:32:08,510 --> 02:32:06,600
Steven Greer spent so much time with us

3885
02:32:10,849 --> 02:32:08,520
so I'll take this offline I'm going to

3886
02:32:14,330 --> 02:32:10,859
place it back online in about 24 hours

3887
02:32:16,550 --> 02:32:14,340
or so and it will be edited with better

3888
02:32:17,630 --> 02:32:16,560
audio and a sponsor message like I

3889
02:32:19,309 --> 02:32:17,640
mentioned there'll be a sponsor message

3890
02:32:21,170 --> 02:32:19,319
at 20 minutes and then 40 minutes they

3891
02:32:22,969 --> 02:32:21,180
pay the bills if you don't like that

3892
02:32:24,590 --> 02:32:22,979
then you have the option of like

3893
02:32:27,530 --> 02:32:24,600
skipping forward there's a time stamp

3894
02:32:30,110 --> 02:32:27,540
all of them are time stamped and you can

3895
02:32:32,030 --> 02:32:30,120
also go to theoriesofeverything.org and

3896
02:32:35,929 --> 02:32:32,040
be a toe member you get an uh you get an

3897
02:32:37,610 --> 02:32:35,939
ad free version so so and you support

3898
02:32:39,290 --> 02:32:37,620
the podcast like thank you thank you

3899
02:32:42,110 --> 02:32:39,300
either way even just this viewage

3900
02:32:45,170 --> 02:32:42,120
viewing just you viewing is supporting

3901
02:32:47,389 --> 02:32:45,180
thank you Dan is from that UFO podcast

3902
02:32:51,710 --> 02:32:47,399
that will also be in the description

3903
02:32:54,950 --> 02:32:51,720
that if you like the the total content

3904
02:32:56,990 --> 02:32:54,960
you'll love that UFO content

3905
02:32:58,969 --> 02:32:57,000
yeah I I think people will find a nice

3906
02:33:00,770 --> 02:32:58,979
crossover between our channels um and

3907
02:33:03,050 --> 02:33:00,780
Andy conducts the interviews on that UFO

3908
02:33:04,550 --> 02:33:03,060
podcast that are very much you know like

3909
02:33:06,110 --> 02:33:04,560
this one we we just asked the question

3910
02:33:07,730 --> 02:33:06,120
we let the information come out and the

3911
02:33:09,290 --> 02:33:07,740
audience can make up their own minds all

3912
02:33:10,550 --> 02:33:09,300
right well stick around for like a

3913
02:33:11,929 --> 02:33:10,560
couple more minutes and answer any

3914
02:33:14,570 --> 02:33:11,939
lingering questions from the audience

3915
02:33:17,990 --> 02:33:14,580
and then we'll take it off air again

3916
02:33:19,190 --> 02:33:18,000
does that sound okay yeah all right that

3917
02:33:23,030 --> 02:33:19,200
sounds great

3918
02:33:27,290 --> 02:33:25,010
so what do you all think in in the chat

3919
02:33:36,590 --> 02:33:27,300
I'm curious how did you like

3920
02:33:36,600 --> 02:33:42,349
a little behind for me

3921
02:33:45,650 --> 02:33:44,150
watching the chat throughout it seemed

3922
02:33:48,170 --> 02:33:45,660
that everyone you know everyone was

3923
02:33:50,330 --> 02:33:48,180
civil a lot of uh conversation was going

3924
02:33:53,090 --> 02:33:50,340
on uh there was a lot of support for

3925
02:33:54,770 --> 02:33:53,100
Steven's app as well uh the ce5 app when

3926
02:33:56,870 --> 02:33:54,780
we were talking about that a number of

3927
02:33:58,190 --> 02:33:56,880
people in the chat use it and vouched

3928
02:34:00,110 --> 02:33:58,200
for it

3929
02:34:01,730 --> 02:34:00,120
some people are saying that we we

3930
02:34:03,770 --> 02:34:01,740
ambushed him and then some people are

3931
02:34:07,490 --> 02:34:03,780
saying you didn't ask any hard questions

3932
02:34:09,050 --> 02:34:07,500
I mean that It's Tricky yeah we're

3933
02:34:10,670 --> 02:34:09,060
always going to get that right like yeah

3934
02:34:12,110 --> 02:34:10,680
you went too far you didn't go far

3935
02:34:14,210 --> 02:34:12,120
enough when the truth is somewhere in

3936
02:34:26,870 --> 02:34:14,220
the middle uh you know

3937
02:34:30,469 --> 02:34:28,610
well I know I don't think we ambushed

3938
02:34:31,730 --> 02:34:30,479
stuff together also our job well at

3939
02:34:33,469 --> 02:34:31,740
least I'm not thinking in terms of

3940
02:34:35,030 --> 02:34:33,479
Ambush for anyone no I'm not thinking in

3941
02:34:37,670 --> 02:34:35,040
terms of let me expose someone I think

3942
02:34:39,349 --> 02:34:37,680
in terms of if this is I would like to

3943
02:34:40,790 --> 02:34:39,359
understand what this person is saying so

3944
02:34:42,410 --> 02:34:40,800
when there are questions if it seems

3945
02:34:43,610 --> 02:34:42,420
like an ambush for instance he didn't

3946
02:34:45,770 --> 02:34:43,620
like my hand waving which is just my

3947
02:34:47,990 --> 02:34:45,780
gesticulation I'm sorry I can't I can't

3948
02:34:50,210 --> 02:34:48,000
help that but when I have questions in a

3949
02:34:53,030 --> 02:34:50,220
scrupulous manner about some fastidious

3950
02:34:56,030 --> 02:34:53,040
physics concept I I don't know what to

3951
02:34:58,130 --> 02:34:56,040
I don't know what to do other than ask

3952
02:34:59,870 --> 02:34:58,140
and I do that to everyone John vervaki

3953
02:35:02,450 --> 02:34:59,880
and mcgilchrist

3954
02:35:05,510 --> 02:35:02,460
Avi Loeb exactly and it just gives the

3955
02:35:07,010 --> 02:35:05,520
person space to elaborate right yeah you

3956
02:35:09,469 --> 02:35:07,020
know I really enjoyed the part where you

3957
02:35:11,510 --> 02:35:09,479
and you and Dr we were talking about the

3958
02:35:13,790 --> 02:35:11,520
the in-depth physics of things because

3959
02:35:15,950 --> 02:35:13,800
it's now often that someone like Dr Lee

3960
02:35:17,630 --> 02:35:15,960
will come up against someone who has the

3961
02:35:19,070 --> 02:35:17,640
actual knowledge to kind of dive into it

3962
02:35:21,170 --> 02:35:19,080
and kind of go wait what do you mean by

3963
02:35:23,510 --> 02:35:21,180
scale hour what do you mean by you know

3964
02:35:26,809 --> 02:35:23,520
Vector in this sense like it's not quite

3965
02:35:29,389 --> 02:35:26,819
the right word you know yes yeah or or

3966
02:35:30,650 --> 02:35:29,399
or well I want to ask about time travel

3967
02:35:32,510 --> 02:35:30,660
because as soon as he says that

3968
02:35:34,969 --> 02:35:32,520
so-and-so travels faster than time then

3969
02:35:37,250 --> 02:35:34,979
it implies yes time travel also in my

3970
02:35:38,870 --> 02:35:37,260
mind just so you know I'm wondering what

3971
02:35:40,070 --> 02:35:38,880
I'm predicting what he's going to say

3972
02:35:41,929 --> 02:35:40,080
which is that while you're thinking of

3973
02:35:44,510 --> 02:35:41,939
it in the standard model and you have to

3974
02:35:45,710 --> 02:35:44,520
think far outside the model well I I

3975
02:35:47,510 --> 02:35:45,720
don't I don't know what to say about

3976
02:35:49,429 --> 02:35:47,520
that because just like how he has a

3977
02:35:50,929 --> 02:35:49,439
checklist for a heart attack I have a

3978
02:35:52,969 --> 02:35:50,939
checklist too and every person has a

3979
02:35:55,910 --> 02:35:52,979
checklist well yeah it doesn't mean that

3980
02:35:58,790 --> 02:35:55,920
you discount the the extraordinary

3981
02:36:01,309 --> 02:35:58,800
and does mean that some will slip

3982
02:36:03,650 --> 02:36:01,319
through and be incorrectly categorized

3983
02:36:05,570 --> 02:36:03,660
so that's also true

3984
02:36:06,770 --> 02:36:05,580
okay all right that's pretty cool thank

3985
02:36:08,030 --> 02:36:06,780
you all thank you all for coming out

3986
02:36:11,389 --> 02:36:08,040
again

3987
02:36:13,250 --> 02:36:11,399
Dan is from that UFO podcast I'm from

3988
02:36:15,250 --> 02:36:13,260
theories of everything and if you'd like

3989
02:36:17,090 --> 02:36:15,260
to support theories of everything visit

3990
02:36:19,190 --> 02:36:17,100
theoriesofeverything.org there's no

3991
02:36:21,770 --> 02:36:19,200
reason there's no sorry there's no

3992
02:36:23,150 --> 02:36:21,780
there's no downside if you don't it's

3993
02:36:25,130 --> 02:36:23,160
just if you want to support if you feel

3994
02:36:26,690 --> 02:36:25,140
like you can and either way thank you

3995
02:36:29,090 --> 02:36:26,700
for coming out

3996
02:36:31,190 --> 02:36:29,100
the podcast is finished and what remains

3997
02:36:34,490 --> 02:36:31,200
now is just a few minutes of the live

3998
02:36:36,349 --> 02:36:34,500
chat prior to Steven coming on where me

3999
02:36:38,870 --> 02:36:36,359
and Dan zetterstrom interact with the

4000
02:36:40,610 --> 02:36:38,880
audience as we await Greer with baited

4001
02:36:42,349 --> 02:36:40,620
breath uh so I can see that Joseph has

4002
02:36:45,889 --> 02:36:42,359
already asked is that him off that UFO

4003
02:36:48,710 --> 02:36:45,899
podcast uh yeah yes yes it is hi this is

4004
02:36:50,690 --> 02:36:48,720
Dan from that UFO podcast Dan is joining

4005
02:36:54,050 --> 02:36:50,700
me he will be moderating the live chat

4006
02:36:57,230 --> 02:36:54,060
he's making sure that my audio Steven's

4007
02:37:00,410 --> 02:36:57,240
audio his own audio works and as well as

4008
02:37:01,730 --> 02:37:00,420
the as well as watching the flow and

4009
02:37:03,230 --> 02:37:01,740
interjecting with questions here and

4010
02:37:05,270 --> 02:37:03,240
there too

4011
02:37:06,170 --> 02:37:05,280
so it's like a collaborative effort and

4012
02:37:08,450 --> 02:37:06,180
there's

4013
02:37:10,370 --> 02:37:08,460
going to be a link once this is posted

4014
02:37:11,929 --> 02:37:10,380
in the edited version the final version

4015
02:37:14,510 --> 02:37:11,939
that will go online

4016
02:37:16,969 --> 02:37:14,520
to that UFO podcast as well as Steven

4017
02:37:19,610 --> 02:37:16,979
Greer's links in the description too how

4018
02:37:21,830 --> 02:37:19,620
are you feeling about this code are you

4019
02:37:24,290 --> 02:37:21,840
nervous like not any more nervous than

4020
02:37:25,849 --> 02:37:24,300
any other interview I'm just a regular

4021
02:37:28,370 --> 02:37:25,859
amount of apprehension

4022
02:37:30,349 --> 02:37:28,380
how about yourself yeah about the same

4023
02:37:31,429 --> 02:37:30,359
you know it lets us know that our brains

4024
02:37:32,750 --> 02:37:31,439
are working properly if we're a little

4025
02:37:34,070 --> 02:37:32,760
bit nervous at this point right it's

4026
02:37:35,210 --> 02:37:34,080
like going over the dip on a roller

4027
02:37:36,710 --> 02:37:35,220
coaster you know it's coming you're

4028
02:37:38,630 --> 02:37:36,720
prepared you accept it but it's

4029
02:37:40,429 --> 02:37:38,640
nerve-wracking anyway you're everything

4030
02:37:42,770 --> 02:37:40,439
okay with you Dan

4031
02:37:44,330 --> 02:37:42,780
yeah everything's great uh this end um

4032
02:37:46,490 --> 02:37:44,340
I'm excited I think we we have some

4033
02:37:49,550 --> 02:37:46,500
really great questions for for Dr Greer

4034
02:37:52,250 --> 02:37:49,560
and I think people are going to be

4035
02:37:53,929 --> 02:37:52,260
pleased uh you know provided that we get

4036
02:37:55,969 --> 02:37:53,939
to a lot of them anyway uh thank you to

4037
02:37:58,010 --> 02:37:55,979
everyone that sent them in we had far

4038
02:38:00,349 --> 02:37:58,020
too many um but we can never really have

4039
02:38:01,910 --> 02:38:00,359
too many as well so yeah thank you um

4040
02:38:03,590 --> 02:38:01,920
and they were all excellent and a note

4041
02:38:05,809 --> 02:38:03,600
on that in the future when you're

4042
02:38:08,030 --> 02:38:05,819
sending in questions for a guest please

4043
02:38:10,670 --> 02:38:08,040
ensure that they're merely questions for

4044
02:38:12,770 --> 02:38:10,680
the guest don't type something like

4045
02:38:14,990 --> 02:38:12,780
Kurt can you ask him about so-and-so

4046
02:38:16,490 --> 02:38:15,000
because firstly that's worded to me like

4047
02:38:17,570 --> 02:38:16,500
Kurt can you ask him and I just want to

4048
02:38:19,429 --> 02:38:17,580
read it I'm not going to say it to

4049
02:38:21,889 --> 02:38:19,439
Stephen Kurt can you ask him about sanso

4050
02:38:23,870 --> 02:38:21,899
and also it asks it makes me have to

4051
02:38:27,469 --> 02:38:23,880
come up with a question like word it so

4052
02:38:30,170 --> 02:38:27,479
that it's verbatim so that I can read it

4053
02:38:32,990 --> 02:38:30,180
and then also another tip is to try to

4054
02:38:35,270 --> 02:38:33,000
make them as short as possible

4055
02:38:37,250 --> 02:38:35,280
think about can it fit in a tweet that's

4056
02:38:38,630 --> 02:38:37,260
great because the longer they are my

4057
02:38:40,010 --> 02:38:38,640
eyes gloss over and there's so much

4058
02:38:42,110 --> 02:38:40,020
background information and there's a

4059
02:38:44,030 --> 02:38:42,120
backstory and then there's like a

4060
02:38:45,650 --> 02:38:44,040
preface and then an editor's note to the

4061
02:38:47,929 --> 02:38:45,660
second edition and I have to edit all

4062
02:38:50,030 --> 02:38:47,939
that in my head real time sometimes so

4063
02:38:52,070 --> 02:38:50,040
try not to have an intemperate amount of

4064
02:38:53,450 --> 02:38:52,080
an exortium please just get straight to

4065
02:38:56,389 --> 02:38:53,460
the question

4066
02:38:58,910 --> 02:38:56,399
yeah be concise and efficient with the

4067
02:39:00,830 --> 02:38:58,920
time I think uh people don't quite

4068
02:39:02,270 --> 02:39:00,840
realize how much you have to remember to

4069
02:39:04,790 --> 02:39:02,280
do as well as talking to your guest

4070
02:39:07,010 --> 02:39:04,800
right so uh yeah this is juggling and

4071
02:39:08,750 --> 02:39:07,020
I'm here to help today and we've got a

4072
02:39:10,130 --> 02:39:08,760
disclosure team and tupacabra and a

4073
02:39:12,590 --> 02:39:10,140
couple of others moderating the live

4074
02:39:15,950 --> 02:39:12,600
chat uh thank you to those guys

4075
02:39:18,770 --> 02:39:15,960
but yeah there's still a lot to juggle

4076
02:39:19,969 --> 02:39:18,780
so another note is you're allowed to ask

4077
02:39:21,950 --> 02:39:19,979
tough questions like there's nothing

4078
02:39:23,929 --> 02:39:21,960
wrong with tough questions just not

4079
02:39:25,250 --> 02:39:23,939
impolitely questions that have embedded

4080
02:39:26,929 --> 02:39:25,260
in them assumptions

4081
02:39:30,650 --> 02:39:26,939
and well every question has an

4082
02:39:33,950 --> 02:39:30,660
assumption but an ODS assumption just be

4083
02:39:36,889 --> 02:39:33,960
polite and it's not the same as being

4084
02:39:39,710 --> 02:39:36,899
biddable but be polite I I like the the

4085
02:39:41,030 --> 02:39:39,720
the Walt Whitman quote of be curious not

4086
02:39:43,130 --> 02:39:41,040
judgmental

4087
02:39:45,349 --> 02:39:43,140
yeah you know we we want

4088
02:39:47,330 --> 02:39:45,359
answers not reactions they're very

4089
02:39:49,550 --> 02:39:47,340
different things and people are going to

4090
02:39:51,290 --> 02:39:49,560
be more satisfied if we actually have Dr

4091
02:39:52,670 --> 02:39:51,300
Greer answer a lot of questions and fill

4092
02:39:54,410 --> 02:39:52,680
a lot of the information gaps that we

4093
02:39:55,969 --> 02:39:54,420
have rather than you know just an

4094
02:39:59,450 --> 02:39:55,979
argument happening on screen which just

4095
02:40:01,429 --> 02:39:59,460
isn't isn't the way I agree who um who

4096
02:40:03,290 --> 02:40:01,439
has been your favorite UFO guest so far

4097
02:40:04,250 --> 02:40:03,300
Kurt

4098
02:40:05,630 --> 02:40:04,260
um

4099
02:40:15,170 --> 02:40:05,640
you're not allowed to see me I don't

4100
02:40:19,130 --> 02:40:17,030
so for Diana I like talking about

4101
02:40:20,990 --> 02:40:19,140
philosophy and for Sal I like talking

4102
02:40:23,990 --> 02:40:21,000
about physics and math

4103
02:40:27,230 --> 02:40:24,000
and okay so for the audience again some

4104
02:40:29,389 --> 02:40:27,240
notes Sal is coming up again with Stefan

4105
02:40:30,830 --> 02:40:29,399
Alexander as a Theo location that

4106
02:40:33,950 --> 02:40:30,840
already occurred I just have to edit it

4107
02:40:35,630 --> 02:40:33,960
like put it together and sync the audio

4108
02:40:38,770 --> 02:40:35,640
and so on

4109
02:40:40,730 --> 02:40:38,780
Tim Maudlin is out so Tim modeling is a

4110
02:40:42,290 --> 02:40:40,740
philosopher of physics and if you're

4111
02:40:44,150 --> 02:40:42,300
interested in interpretations of quantum

4112
02:40:46,190 --> 02:40:44,160
mechanics then

4113
02:40:48,110 --> 02:40:46,200
do watch that episode that's out I'll

4114
02:40:51,590 --> 02:40:48,120
put it in the description right now you

4115
02:40:53,030 --> 02:40:51,600
can search for Tim maudlin

4116
02:40:54,349 --> 02:40:53,040
theories of everything or just search

4117
02:40:56,570 --> 02:40:54,359
theories of everything is the latest

4118
02:40:57,889 --> 02:40:56,580
video

4119
02:41:00,230 --> 02:40:57,899
um

4120
02:41:02,690 --> 02:41:00,240
Yuri Geller has confirmed to come on to

4121
02:41:05,510 --> 02:41:02,700
the podcast however I don't know enough

4122
02:41:08,270 --> 02:41:05,520
of his background yet to see if it's a

4123
02:41:10,849 --> 02:41:08,280
good fit I was just inquiring hey would

4124
02:41:12,110 --> 02:41:10,859
you be willing to come on and I'm not

4125
02:41:14,510 --> 02:41:12,120
sure if I have enough material to talk

4126
02:41:16,610 --> 02:41:14,520
with him about so let me know what you

4127
02:41:17,870 --> 02:41:16,620
all think Kevin knuth will also be

4128
02:41:20,030 --> 02:41:17,880
coming on soon

4129
02:41:21,410 --> 02:41:20,040
well Kevin's like I love Kevin I asked

4130
02:41:23,450 --> 02:41:21,420
him like Hey did you want to come on

4131
02:41:25,190 --> 02:41:23,460
like here's the time frame and here's a

4132
02:41:27,650 --> 02:41:25,200
couple topics we can talk about he sends

4133
02:41:28,910 --> 02:41:27,660
me in like essays upon essays oh and

4134
02:41:30,530 --> 02:41:28,920
here's what my current thinking is on

4135
02:41:32,150 --> 02:41:30,540
this subject and and here's what we

4136
02:41:33,950 --> 02:41:32,160
could talk about and I want to talk

4137
02:41:35,330 --> 02:41:33,960
about so and so but I don't have my

4138
02:41:36,590 --> 02:41:35,340
thoughts formulated but here they are in

4139
02:41:38,030 --> 02:41:36,600
case you want to ask me other questions

4140
02:41:40,370 --> 02:41:38,040
I love Kevin

4141
02:41:42,530 --> 02:41:40,380
yeah he really runs head first into

4142
02:41:44,990 --> 02:41:42,540
everything and he he has his ideas but

4143
02:41:46,730 --> 02:41:45,000
the more I find that people in The Wider

4144
02:41:47,990 --> 02:41:46,740
World they confuse ideas and the term

4145
02:41:51,950 --> 02:41:48,000
hypothesis

4146
02:41:54,110 --> 02:41:51,960
right it's not just speculation whereas

4147
02:41:55,550 --> 02:41:54,120
Kevin will have hypotheses that he can

4148
02:41:57,110 --> 02:41:55,560
go and test and you know he's doing the

4149
02:41:59,809 --> 02:41:57,120
work for it so I I love watching

4150
02:42:02,090 --> 02:41:59,819
interviews with him yeah as someone here

4151
02:42:03,710 --> 02:42:02,100
they they just asked about Dan have you

4152
02:42:04,969 --> 02:42:03,720
ever heard of the Hast darling phenomena

4153
02:42:06,670 --> 02:42:04,979
have you heard about the hairstyle and

4154
02:42:09,349 --> 02:42:06,680
lights go

4155
02:42:11,090 --> 02:42:09,359
I want to know what you think yeah I

4156
02:42:12,889 --> 02:42:11,100
mean it's really intriguing basically a

4157
02:42:14,750 --> 02:42:12,899
bunch of scientists did a study on

4158
02:42:16,849 --> 02:42:14,760
things that they thought were UFOs they

4159
02:42:18,889 --> 02:42:16,859
kind of had to change the language that

4160
02:42:20,870 --> 02:42:18,899
they're using for it so we had terms

4161
02:42:22,490 --> 02:42:20,880
like Earth flight so you know plasma

4162
02:42:24,110 --> 02:42:22,500
balls or lightning that kind of stuff

4163
02:42:26,510 --> 02:42:24,120
talked about but there was a lot of high

4164
02:42:28,969 --> 02:42:26,520
strangeness present in the area and it

4165
02:42:31,849 --> 02:42:28,979
was almost a skinwalker-esque place for

4166
02:42:34,849 --> 02:42:31,859
a little while and now there's a 24 7

4167
02:42:36,230 --> 02:42:34,859
monitoring station set up uh that

4168
02:42:37,490 --> 02:42:36,240
doesn't have the highest Tech stuff but

4169
02:42:40,070 --> 02:42:37,500
it's the kind of place that I wish

4170
02:42:42,530 --> 02:42:40,080
Brandon fugled the guy refunding the

4171
02:42:43,730 --> 02:42:42,540
skinwalker investigations would invest

4172
02:42:45,410 --> 02:42:43,740
in so they could get some better

4173
02:42:47,090 --> 02:42:45,420
equipment there like I say the the

4174
02:42:49,010 --> 02:42:47,100
activity seems to have gone down a

4175
02:42:50,809 --> 02:42:49,020
little bit uh which is strange because